iPhone Apps Reinstated, iPod Touch Hacked

I think there are good hackers that give us programs that the manufacturer does not invest on or just part of their marketing ploys. Bad hackers are those that ploy malicious software like viruses and you know the result. These hackers that give us these applications give us now what apple will take another 5 years to offer before the competition can catch up. That how good they are.

can some one give me the link to hack step by step my ipod touch firmware 1.1.1. i need it fast that you can thx

“They are making life for us end users better by improving on something and giving us more options and more programs that we can use to get the best and most out of our units.” - Posted By Seng, Boston, MA

What a bunch of hooey!

Hackers do not care about improving technology and making things better for others. They are looking for the glamour and glitter that comes along with being a hacker. Hackers are similar to bodybuilders. They both work out in order to show off for others, not to make life better for the masses. This altruistic vision of hacking is nonsense. If hackers were really trying to make tech better, they would find jobs with these tech companies and help the companies to improve their goods and services.

Hackers really are so unimportant.
I think this guy has hit it right on the money.
http://weblogs.redeyechicago.com/iphoneblog/2007/09/be-glad-you-don.html

can you just not update?

I think we should put a proper definition as to what a Hacker is. IMHO, the hackers hacking into the iphones etc are Heros. They are not destoying anything but instead…they have tremendous value add. They are NOT terrorists hacking into networks and they are not spys. They are making life for us end users better by improving on something and giving us more options and more programs that we can use to get the best and most out of our units.

I have huge respect for these Hackers.
1. They are putting themselves at risk.
2. They believe in what they are doing and are pusuing something they love. How many of us can truly say that we are doing what we love. We spend 8-15 hours a day in the office pretending…?
3. They are doing it for free.
4. Are they destroying anything? I think not.

So…if you are using a 3rd party application on anything that you own…before you sound off on hackers…i think you owe it to them.

So, I am confused- should I be rooting for Apple, for “protecting” us; or for the hackers, who are giving us the apps that Apple has not seen fit to provide? If it’s the latter, more power to ‘em! The software Nazis of Microsoft and Apple have far too long had control over what we are allowed to think and do.

After years of listening to so many claims that the Apple O/S was not hackable or that it was not full of bugs like MS we see now that it’s just as vulnerable as MS. See Apple never had anything that anyone was interested in spending time hacking now they do. Great competition for MS hackwers.

its disturbing how some people here enjoy having their lives controlled by others or being told what to do by people such as these big corporations. You must all be republicans…

Anyways, Hacker’s do what they do for the same reason why people play competitive chess for a living, or perform research for diseases like AIDS. They enjoy testing their mental prowess against others… Given it’s not going to save the world or millions of people, but if they enjoy doing it, and are not being a nuisance to society, why not let them be?

Also, you have to think that some of the best features that end up coming to these “legitamate” versions of the programs are originally developed by third parties as add-ons. Just look at Linux’s open system. It obviously is developed by anyone who wants to contribute, but I wouldn’t say it’s “amateur”.

“What is the use of hacking into an iPhone if the hacker cannot get rich from the applications?” “The cash and the money are all that matter.”
Posted By Yadgyu, Harkeyville, TX

Yadgyu, you (whoever you are) are obviously the last person qualified to talk about what’s a good hack, a useful hack, and what’s not. Hackers seldom do it for the money.

When asked why he wanted to climb Mt Everest, George Mallory replied, “Because it’s there.”

It’s the same thing with hacking the iPhone, writing Free/Open Source Software, and in general being a geek. It’s quite apparent that you, sir, are no geek, and cannot be expected to understand.

” This stuff can tend to imprision humanity or it can free humanity, either one.” - Posted By s stanton, manhattan, KS

That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard of. You must be one of those professors who believes that in the next few years, humans will be flying around in Star-Trek-type spacships and going to war with alien races. Technology, especially an iPhone, is not meant to save anyone. It is created for consumer use and corporate profit.

These hacking activities are done by people who either have too much free time or are too sorry to get rich from their works. What is the use of hacking into an iPhone if the hacker cannot get rich from the applications?

If these dudes were smart, they would try to become engineers at Apple and make the iPhone better or sell their programs on the internet for cash. These people are already committing crimes by hacking the phones. If they were legitimate business people, they wouldn’t have to use generic codenames and hide behind the wall of cyberspace. They could be multimillionaires or even billionaires like Steve Jobs.

Forget about “the glamour and glitter”. The cash and the money are all that matter.

Comment for Rick, Washington DC.

It’s not Apple House any more. They sold it.

All the hackers are doing is exploiting security holes and risks that exist. Apple must seal up those holes to avoid having a big problem with any nefarious and malicious hackers that may be out there, waiting to take advantage of what has been accomplished.

It absolutely does not matter what the intentions of these present hackers is, because a security risk and a hole in the system is a wide-open invitation for anyone to hack in and do real damage to other normal and unsuspecting users.

So, this “hacker game” is going to continue and Apple will continually seal up the holes and the cycle goes on and on and on — with the present hackers doing a favor to Apple in helping Apple identify the places they need to “close up” for the good of the overwhelming majority of iPhone users.

“It amazes me people complain about a company protecting its image and products. If they didn’t, we’d just have another Windows joke of a system that has too many apps and products for it that cause massive issues.”

Um… this is a joke, right?

I could care less if someone hacks the iPhone or not. I do encourage creativity like this, but the users must also be aware there are risks involved. In the end, the device is owned by the user, NOT Apple. I don’t agree completely with apple soley releasing an update to “brick” the iphone. Say what you want about the update, but it sole purpose was just that, to render the iPhone useless. With that being said, Apple knows it’s user community is extremely determined and creative. Why wouldn’t they just release the iPhone with an API that would allow this type of creativity. If need be, put it in some type of chroot environment so rouge or poorley written applications would not impact the native iPhone applications. Just my two cents and I don’t even own an iPhone.

When I think of Hackers all I see is Matthew Broderick in War Games. Didnt he have a rotary dial modem? I feel like playing Defender.

Apple is making a mistake by trying to squash third party software with firmware updates. The “hackers” have some very good ideas and new functions to add to the already wonderful device, the iphone. And for those who don’t want to venture down the unauthorized application path, fine, don’t. But don’t tell us that we can’t experiment with new applications which will make a good device even better! Go hackers!

The phone was not subsidized which is generally the caveat to locking the device.
Apple should tread carefully or their attention will soon turn to writing malware for their OS.
Disabling the update function probably isnt too hard.
Hackers helped break codes in WWll.

I have a different take on this hacking think.

Apple has what some 1000 programmers, don’t know the number, we say 1000 for the agrument sake. There are 100,000s of hackers. Opening the device up and adding thing the original 1000 didn’t think of doing or overlooked.

Apple will sell more iPhones and iPod Touches because of this.

Gen 2 will incorporate some overlooked apps. that hackers added.

Wow, the comments here are surprising. It sounds like the previous posts would be in favor of having to ask Apple or Microsoft for permission before installing software on their computer. It’s your device, you should be able to freely tweak and customize it at will.

The people posting ignorant comments about “hacking” need to learn what hacking means and stop associating it in their minds with the bad connotations of hackers trying to destroy things. Hacking is taking advantage of the full range of features your device offers and personalizing it. For example, there are many people that dislike how the email is handled on the iPhone - someone could create an application that allows batch delete. How about wanting to play a game like snake? If it was a computer you’d download a freeware program to play it; it’s a similar idea with the iPhone. It’s truely sickening that some people don’t understand the idea that I bought something, I can use it to do more then was they originally thought it could.

And a last good example: the older ipod nano has the pixels and the power to somewhat play movies - people hacked it so it could do it.
For another counterpoint, do you think it would be right for Sears to sell you a refrigerator and say that you can only store milk on the top shelf because that’s how they designed it?

As a college professor in electrical and computer engineering at the local state university, my opinion is that the hackers are the hope of the world. AT&T certainly is not. We are waiting with breath held to know where Apple falls in this lineup. This stuff can tend to imprision humanity or it can free humanity, either one.

There are already reports that Apple’s new OSX will allow legal third-party apps for these devices. In the meantime, why clutter such an elegant interface with the work of amatures. I understand the gamesmanship mentality of the hackers - “honor among thieves” and all that - but don’t blame Apple for wanting to keep the device intact.

You lock your house so 3rd parties don’t come in an mess with it.

The same thing applies here. Apple doesn’t want their code or products messed up via hackers or news to get out about their software/secrets etc.

It amazes me people complain about a company protecting its image and products. If they didn’t, we’d just have another Windows joke of a system that has too many apps and products for it that cause massive issues.

Control is not a bad thing.

How long Sadun’s friends have the energy to keep playing cat-and-mouse with Steve Jobs’ programmers remains to be seen.

How long? Forever. There will never be shortage of people to hack highly intriguing and popular closed (at least for the moment) OSes like OS X Mobile.

I think these kids should be prosecuted. They are working with proprietary information (code). It is NOT an open source application. A woman in Michigan is facing jail time and a $200,000 fine for file sharing something that was copy written. These guys should also face the same fate.

The hackers are hardly idiots. They represent some of the brightest minds in the computer science industry. In essence, they hack the iPhone for bragging rights, the glamour and glitter associated with it, and just for fun. In the end, you can blame the hackers cult on Apple. They choose to lock the phone and prevent 3rd parties from developing useful applications for it. Apple should have at least made the iPhone platform available for development of new applications, and they could have profited from it by charging licensing fees to third parties for “officially approved” applications. Instead they chose to chase phantoms in cyber space and now they are fighting a losing war.

An idiot that live outside the US and like to use this amazing phone…

Totally agree with the first two comments. If future updates brick their phones, too bad!

it is not difficult for third parties to write software for iPhone but those software should go through download process through iTune which means the software have officially been approved by APPLE.

Any other download directly from Internet are unofficial and unable to run or operate on iPhone.

Who but an idiot would hack their iPhone or iPod Touch? You should have a special section for news like this. You could call it: News for idiots.