Mac climbs to record 7.95% share in Net Applications survey

Wow, we live in a world full of smugs and they just perfuse through these comments. How about you use what you like and stop trying to bash someone else to get your point across. Its called lead by example and non of you trash talkers will ever claim to be one of those leaders. My company makes millions of dollars running windows software as we are fully electronic here and we aren’t saving our systems everyday like you people claim to. Vista is much more secure and runs great over here, I never get any examples of why it is garbage, its just always garbage to a Mac fan, and funny thing is they have never used it in most cases. Go read some tech blogs of industry leaders and you will see that Apples last leapord patch did a job on many systems out there. Wake up fools, your talking to the wrong person about your agenda’s. My agenda is that I enjoy using it and would like people to act like they are confident in their own choice and not bashing me with “garbage” statements. I guess I am just a level headed human being.

Macs are far more stable, reliable than any Microsoft OS, NO I don’t have an agenda, just experience, and anyone who says anything good about Vista has an agenda.

A trash collector in New York once said in all the years of collecting trash, he always sees PC’s being thrown out.

But never once did he ever see anyone throw out an Apple Computer.

Maybe this is why sales figures do not reflect actual usage.

We think its great that MAC is jumping up in market share. They offer a very stable OS and with Office 07 for MAC its even better.Dallas Computer Repair

Regarding “Market Share”

Since Macs are well known to remain in service much longer than the average windows PC, the stats from the internet are a better measure of actual ‘installed’ market share than sales - because sales treats Macs and PC’s as equivalent.

I love these reports, they get Apple fans all hyped up and thinking they are gonna rule the world. Funny how the Apple fans would love to have a monopoly like they always thought Microsoft did. We live in a world of hypocrits and its so funny. They trash the other guy all day and never give a good reason as to why my Vista machine runs like a champ. Don’t go around calling something garbage when there are plenty of happy customers that get everything done they want to. 8 months strong and no crashes or issues except a video driver when it first came out. Wow we live in a cynical world and the media folks are always about being better than everyone else and well many Apple fans think they are better than you or me. I used to be a Mac fan until they closed out the clones and became the ultimate proprietary system. Thank god they did not become the mainstay after that, as we would not have the competition and advancements in hardware that we have today. All I can say is that Vista is not garbage and anyone that tells you that just has an agenda. Politics in America, gotta love it.

Apple is a Growth Industry:

Whoever measures Apple notices the fact that the market share continues to grow.

Over the last year, our company web site consitantly shows Apple at 12%.

Windows 85.70%
Macintosh 12.63%
Linux 1.37%
iPhone 0.09%

I used to have an Apple II plus, hated the Macintosh and went with windows 3.1, 95, 98, XP… Now I am a linux person and the Mac is light years ahead of the PC. MS is in big trouble, the quality of Dell etc sucks and my iMac rules. I was hesitant bacause of the price point, but it sure is worth it. Mac controls quality much better. I bought and returned a Sony vista machine after 1 day it just was not workable. Now I do my work plus make movies and enjoy my music and tv… awesome. Vista can’t even compare. I wish Apple would drop their prices but definitely not do generic clonses like HP/Dell/Toshiba they suck.

There are many people like myself that like Vista. It does come loaded with to many features enabled by default and has some backward capatiblity issues. For those of us who have been tinkering with and re-installing Windows since version 3.1, Vista is another step up in technology. Re-installing periodically is no longer required with Vista. For the non power user Macs may be the better choice. Some power users may also want it for the Unix internals, but if you want that Linux can provide it for free.

I do not understand why Apple does not sell its software on a standalone basis and go head to head with Microsoft?
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because the jig would be up for apple over charging for off the self hardware and upgrades. wouldn’t want Dell/asus/HP using the same parts and charging 1/3rd+ less

My take on this chart would be that the iphone is the only phone that makes the chart. (0.16% of ALL net usage based on 5 million phones versus billions of full computers!) This drives home the point of how much the iphone is used to surf the net and that that ease of and experience in doing so is (even for version 1) the primary differentiating factor among all other smart phones.

been using PC’s for over twenty years. It is pitiful how crippled the software is today. The creators have no idea what quality even means. They are just preoccupied with getting it to work with a obscufated API which is windows. Buying a MAC for the first time. Got one for my daughter and she now enjoys using a computer

Jakko, Symbian would be included in other. Remember the data is based on use of web browsers. Symbian users don’t surf the web on their phones nearly as much as iPhone users do.

Windows Vista is the major reason for Windows continued downward spiral. It is buggy, bloated and full of DRM that it is slow on all but the most cutting-edge of systems. And even then it is noticeably slower than it’s predecessor, XP. Although Windows ME will probably be known as the lowest quality Windows produced, Vista may actually be considered the worst. The reasons: expectations were higher after waiting 5 1/2 years from XP, it was considered a major release so there is not quick fix in the works. Although MS is trying to push out Windows “Seven” quick. However, it is heavily based on Vista, so good luck.

“I do not understand why Apple does not sell its software on a standalone basis and go head to head with Microsoft?”

Because they dont make their money on software (yet) their primary revenue stream is selling the hardware (iphone, ipod, mac). If they were only software (like MS) then they would have to switch their pricing model on their software and it would be more like MS.

The biggest risk with Microsoft is that it’s built around the cult of Bill Gates and the cult of money. I’m not sure how well it will survive without him and Steve Ballmer has some serious personality problems.

Meanwhile, Eric Schmidt (Google CEO) just joined Apple’s Board of Directors and I don’t think anyone is concerned that Apple will continue to do what it does (whether you approve or not).

The bench is much deeper at Apple which is the sign of the creation of a company rather than a personality cult. Don’t get me wrong, Windows, Media Player, the Zune, they are all copied from Apple. Microsoft runs mafia tactics when it comes to consumer acceptance. Just worried why Bill hasn’t done more to create a visible succession plan.

Sorry guys, this is not market share. It is a measurement of the number of times individual computer OSs hit a series of sites. It MAY be related to installed base, but it is most certainly not market share.

I wish people would learn at least the most basic business principles before publishing nonsense.

ex ped: Joe, I know these Net Applications surveys drive you crazy, but I’m not sure “nonsense” is a fair characterization of this report. Is there something I could have written to make it clearer what these numbers do and don’t represent?

I do not understand why Apple does not sell its software on a standalone basis and go head to head with Microsoft?

Windows CE is Windows Mobile essentially so if you look at the marketshare website, you see that not many folks browse on Win CE devices (.08%) because honestly the browser isnt that great.

It is just a matter of time. Vista is the biggest piece of garbage ever made. Apple will continue to grow, as Gates retires and Microsoft continues its downward spiral…

The biggest risk with Apple is that it’s built around the cult of Steve Jobs. I’m not sure how well it will survive without him and he has some serious health problems.

Meanwhile, Bill Gates just left Microsoft and I don’t think anyone is concerned that Microsoft will continue to do what it does (whether you approve or not).

The bench is much deeper at Microsoft which is the sign of the creation of a company rather than a personality cult. Don’t get me wrong. Jobs runs circles around Gates when it comes to consumer acceptance. Just worried why he hasn’t done more to create a visible succession plan.

*Sigh* Linux has only a 0.79% market share.
I look forward to the day when Linux has
at least a 2% market share, let alone the tiny 8% Mac has in contrast to Windows.

Before around November last year, Net Applications were always separating PPC and Intel-based Macs from each other, and also all the different versions of Windows. This made it a bit more cumbersome to track changes in overall Mac/Windows share, so I wrote a little script for that. In November they started doing the combining themselves, and that change also broke my script and made it less useful.

They are still putting everything in the same graph though, and this pretty much hides what’s going on as Windows is still (barely) above 90% and Macs below 10%. I used to have them separately, so I fixed my script and the plots can be seen here:

http://ilari.scheinin.fidisk.fi/market-shares/

I do find it interesting how the Mac share has been relatively flat during the first half of the year, but then increasing rapidly during the back-to-school and holiday shopping seasons. Looking forward to seeing that this year as well.

PED — Question for you….

Have you seen or heard any commentary on the impact of Oil on Apple in the coming quarters? I am not speaking in terms of consumer discretionary spending. I am speaking in terms of material costs. Lots of components in computers are petroleum based. Has Apple spoken of a plan to address this? Will costs simply be passed on to the consumer? If product prices climb, sales will dip accordingly. Has this been factored into Apple sales and share projections through the next 2-3 quarters?

Thanks.

What a piece of research indeed. So, iPhone is an operating system, but Symbian apparently is not. And no, the Symbian market share is not as small as iPhone’s so there is no way in hell it could fit into the “Other” section. I suppose the research institute is long AAPL?

Two words: Windows Vista.

The best Microsoft advertising campaign for Mac OS yet. :-)

Within a year, the iPhone2 will sell 20+M devices. We have about 6M now w/ a share of .16%. Seems like next June iPhone share could be a full 1% w/ the next phone browser coming in at under .05%…

Two years out iPhone share will be 3% w/ number 2 coming in at .25%???

Pretty interesting.

So if all Mac can muster is a pitiful 7.95% market share, why is it that they seem to command 75% of the media attention? Also, the only attention given to Windows/Microsoft is negative. Sounds a lot like the media love affair for Obama. That says tons! Media bias, who would have thought?!

I’m curious as to what is in the “Other” that is growing so fast.

Or is it a statistical anomaly, given the extremely small base?

is win mobile included in the windows number?

ex ped: Hard to say. Windows Mobile doesn’t appear in the Net Applications list of operating systems versions, where as such variations as Windows CE and Windows ME do. See here.

I personally would count the iPhone as a mac, there, because it is running Mac OS X. Sure, it should be separate in the table, but for the general category “mac” I’d classify “Macintosh” and “iPhone”.

Momentum It’s apparent that Apple has the forward momentum in terms of market penetration. When, oh when, will the stock start to reflect that and stop being bled to death by small cuts every day? Wallstreet, and certainly Cramer et al., just DON’T get it. I think you’re tuning in to what’s happening with the company, PED.