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November 15, 2008, 3:00 pm

BlackBerry Storm vs. Apple iPhone: 8 reasons pro and con

Storm v. iPhoneWho says you can’t have it both ways?

With RIM’s (RIMM) touchscreen BlackBerry Storm set to be released in the United States next Friday, CIO.com has published eight reasons to choose the Storm over Apple’s (AAPL) iPhone.

The same day, it published eight reasons to pick the iPhone over the Storm.

Both pieces are by Al Sacco, who probably doesn’t pay for the phones he reviews.

Here’s why he prefers the Storm:

  1. Stereo Bluetooth capability
  2. Removable battery
  3. Expandable memory
  4. Video recording
  5. Works as a tethered modem
  6. Tactile feedback
  7. Copy and paste
  8. Multitasking

Here’s why he prefers the iPhone

  1. It’s now second-generation
  2. Built-in memory
  3. iTunes App Store
  4. iTunes integration
  5. Full QWERY (virtual) keyboard
  6. Wi-Fi support
  7. iPod media player
  8. Safari browser

To learn more, click here for why you should pick the Storm and here for the iPhone.

i recently switched from an iphone to the storm, the difference is tremendous. i switched from att because of the outragous inconsistent bills and literally cried because i was losing my beloved iphone. I will never miss that POS again after getting acustomed to my bb storm. its way faster, more pixels, and has more capabilities than the iphone could ever process. lack of wi-fi, who cares? who needs wi-fi when your 3g provider doesnt lose service every 45 minutes. i havent had a single dropped call in the 1 1/2 months ive had vzw. not to mention i have service EVERYWHERE, and not the staticy cut-out kind either. in my experience with both bb storm wins hands down.

Posted By anonymous, West Hollywood, CA : January 4, 2009 6:32 pm

i hate everything about the iphone, every time ive played with one or tryed to use it it froze or becomes very confusing but thats apple for you, (even there computers are confusing and backwards)

i think the apple i-phone is nothing compared to the storm,

i have never been a fan of touch screen and apple made me never want one but when blackberry claimed to have the click i had to try it and i think blackberry conquers the touch screen world with the click.

Also i think the black berry is easier to operate after playing with mine for a while i knew it inside and out,

ALSO if you really love i-phone but dont wanna deal with at&t’s service or dont like some of its features you can get a theme for the storm witch makes it the i-phone with still all the blackberry features.

and i dont think the i-phone can ever be the storm.

oh and this talk about wi-fi yeah its cool and all but i think i-phone has that option cause to be honest at&t sucks i never had a problem getting service with my storm for online or calls.

i just think the blackberry storm is so much better then i-phone and i can say its the i-phone killer

Posted By New york : January 1, 2009 10:30 pm

I got my Storm when it first came out and I’ve used it for a month. Basically this phone is a POS. I wish I have taken it back before my 30 days were up. I miss my Bold which is easier to use. Also AT&T’s service fees are a lot less. Don’t make the same mistake I did. If email isn’t your primary use for a phone then save yourself the money and just get an iPhone.

Posted By James, Atlanta, GA : December 30, 2008 5:14 pm

Dan

Actually once you get used to it, texting is quite easy and more convenient on the clickable screen. You don’t have to worry about accidently selecting something.

You seem to be one of the few users who do not have a problem with battery life on their iPhone. That is a very common complaint that is seen everywhere.

The Storm comes loaded with Verizon’s version of iTunes. You’d be very hard pressed to find a song that is not on there. Believe me, I’ve tried.

I have weather, news, sports and more from the home screen. And I’m really not too lazy to type in Youtube.com to watch the videos on a better screen then the iPhone.
I can also click on an icon on the home screen and click a button to get back.

I think you’d be surprised to find out how many people have more than 3500 songs on their computer. I have over 7000 and that’s not a very large amount compared to most of my friends. Granted I am a musician so I probably have more then the average joe, but 3500 is not that many. And why would you want to be limited in your storage? What if you did get more videos and songs someday? You wouldn’t be able to store them on your phone, I would.

Sleek, cool? So is the storm. Maybe it’s not as popular cause it just came out…but I’d also prefer functionality over “sleek and cool.”

Posted By Jeremy, Madison WI : December 23, 2008 4:47 pm

In response to: Posted By Matt, San Mateo, CA : December 10, 2008 12:32 pm

Apple actually did go to Verizon prior to offering the phone to AT&T, but Verizon declined it because Apple wanted everything included and Verizon wanted to charge extra for everything like they do with all their other phones. You can get visual voicemail through Verizon for $2.99/month, with iPhone and AT&T apps like that are free. Read the article/blog here http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/29/verizon-passed-up-apple-iphone-deal/

Posted By Anonymous : December 23, 2008 8:45 am

You people are funny as hell. We should start a nerd fight club between Storm and iphone users. Ya gotta get that consumer aggression out..lol

Posted By Redman, Modesto CA : December 22, 2008 5:40 am

i have the BB storm and love it. people complain about testing it in stores and it is slow, what they dont realize is that people mess with them all day instores. its like a computer and you have to close a program. it would be like 100 people opening shit on your computer and not closing anythin. mine is really fast and i can text faster than my cousin who has an iphone. there is like a week learning curve and once you master the blackberry it is amazing!! plus i send pictures all day and i have to email them to my cousin that has the iphone haha

Posted By richard canton,oh : December 18, 2008 6:15 pm

hey, i got s BB Storm and love it. It could be hard in the beginning, but as you get used to it, the better it gets

Posted By Oscar, Tustin CA : December 16, 2008 11:56 pm

I am a current Apple iPhone user. I love my iPhone and wouldn’t trade for a BB Storm. I went to a Verizon Wireless store the other day to try out the BB Storm, it sucks, and it was totally confusing. The storm’s touch screen isn’t as sensible as iPhone. My girlfriend and I travel a alot. She has a Verizon phone and sometimes she will not get service where I get service. I have no problems with the iphone, and I don’t get dropped calls. Most importantly, I love my iPhone.

Posted By JD, New York, NY : December 12, 2008 2:41 am

ATT service “s_cks” in my area, unable to get any signal. The only service company I get great signal is Verizon service. Too bad Apple chose to only deal with ATT, (IMHO BAD DECISION). Everyone has their own opinion. I love the iphone, but not with ATT service. Wish Apple reconsider contracting with Verizon. Still waiting.

Posted By Matt, San Mateo, CA : December 10, 2008 12:32 pm

My only disappointment with the iphone is no bluetooth stereo support. what good is having all my music, videos and such if im still wired. comon apple lets get wireless..other than that no other phone ive owned beats the iphone

Posted By gerold, dallas tx : December 3, 2008 10:27 pm

Apologies for the repeated post. The first one I forgot to include my name and it stated that it would not post but; it did in fact post without using Name, City and State. Sorry about that. Cmcken1

Posted By Anonymous : December 3, 2008 3:33 pm

Wifi is very cool and, up until today, I never have used it nor thought about using it- until now. I have used up almost all of my minutes for this month and, on my Nokia E71-2, it allows net calling. I set it up for VoIP after reading about how I can use that feature to make net calls and aviod going over my minutes. I think this is fantastic. It’s not just for faster internet usage. It sure comes in handy for sure and, whether at home or on the work network, I save money by using WiFi. Now I understand why VZW disables it on their devices or, has the OEM remove the feature altogether.

Posted By cmcken1, Ontario, Ca : December 3, 2008 11:19 am

Wifi is very cool and, up until today, I never have used it nor thought about using it- until now. I have used up almost all of my minutes for this month and, on my Nokia E71-2, it allows net calling. I set it up for VoIP after reading about how I can use that feature to make net calls and aviod going over my minutes. I think this is fantastic. It’s not just for faster internet usage. It sure comes in handy for sure and, whether at home or on the work network, I save money by using WiFi. Now I understand why VZW disables it on their devices or, has the OEM remove the feature altogether. This is why I stay with AT&T and, in my opinion, the device choices are far greater. For me, I buy unlocked devices and have full use of the features that are in my device and I get full 3G signals on Nokia as well due to an outstanding radio design vs. the Bold that I had. It works great and other than the email client; it works better and performs better than the Blackberry and iPhone. Nokia just works-something that the iPhone was supposed to do but, (in my tests) failed to live up to. At least the phone / radio part of the device failed to work as good as other devices I have used.

Posted By Anonymous : December 3, 2008 11:17 am

believe it or not, wifi actually DOES make a difference…it’s many times faster than any 3G on ANY network.

i still don’t get how selecting a letter AND THEN pressing the screen down just for one letter is supposed to be good. A text would take minutes. That and only being able to have a qwerty keyboard in landscape mode is just retarded. No feedback on the iphone is fine, who types on a qwerty keyboard without lookin at what they’re doin? wtf

to those complaining about battery life: no, you cannot switch the battery out. Why does it matter if it lasts all day anyway? i can go several days without charging mine, and that’s with heavy usage of Safari and playing music at the same time.

And music is another thing- the blackberry can only do drm-free songs, when a lot of media players use drm now, to enforce the copyright. The iphone can access itunes and the app store straight from the phone and buy it on the phone.

The iphone also comes with more internet features, like being able to access youtube and stocks and weather straight from the home screen.

There are no dropdowns or anything to worry about either. you click on an icon from the homescreen. you click a button to get back. Works great every time.

For not being able to have removable memory: apps and contacts and such take up a miniscule amount of data. The rest of it is for music, movies, etc (which is great for airplane rides). 16gb holds around 3500 songs. What percentage of people has more than that on their computers?

And one last thing: i’d rather be seen in public on an iphone than a blackberry. The iphone is a lot more sleek and, really, is just plain cool. I’m sticking with the iphone.

Posted By Dan, Plainfield, IL : December 2, 2008 8:18 pm

I have the storm do i think it is better then the i phone hell no. but i would never go on to att there service sucks by me people that have there phone can never make calls and have to use my phone, im sure its getting better but when will it? i just wish they would sell the iphone for verizon! i would buy it in a heart beat on the verizon network.

Posted By Joey, Long island Ny : December 2, 2008 5:56 pm

I couldn’t take the Storm home either. I left it on the counter and sure glad I did. I am going to wait for the new N97 to come out next year and go with something that I know works. Having owned several Nokias over the years as well as BBs, I prefer Nokia personally. The new device is just what I was waiting for from Nokia. Full large display, touch and full qwerty to type emails out on. This is what I wish my E71 was and, now it’s finally here.

Posted By cmcken1, Ontario, Ca : December 2, 2008 5:24 pm

After receiving a post card in the mail from Verizon that a new Blackberry was coming out. I was really excited. I didn’t care how much it was going to cost, I wanted it. After watching all the commercials on T.V. I was more excited.

The blackberry was released 11.20.08. I went to purchase 11.25.2008. Of course, before I purchsed I tested. Really wasn’t impressed. There is no comparison betwwen the iPhone and the Storm.

I currently use the Blackberry Curve, I feel the Curve way better than the Storm. the Storm crashed when I was testing it.

I got bored just testing the phone. My husband has the iPhone navagating with the iPhone is easier than the Storm. You have to press the screen, wait for a click for about 3-5 sec. in order for the Storm to navigate. It took me more than 2 min. to send a text, more than 5 min. to go to msn.com. Simple form the screen makes it not user friendly. SO I DIDN’T BUY THE STORM. I stuck with the Curve. I would like to switch to the iPhone, but I like the service that I get from Verizon. The complaint my husband has about the iPhone is that the battery life and sometimes his service sucks.

My husband is right, nothing can compare to his iPhone. I agree with him. For now. Waiting to see if Verizon will make changes. (it really needs it)

Posted By jn, salida, ca : December 1, 2008 7:08 am

Funniest parody ever!

In today’s episode, BlackBerry Bella has the new BlackBerry Storm in her hands. The only one in Canada since they are not sold here yet. Then iPhone 3G Sophia comes along ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlAW-MlPOQU

Check it out!

Posted By NY, USA : December 1, 2008 12:25 am

ha, 6000 apps? now lets all be honest, they are mostly rubbish and some good games, but really, its a PHONE, if it can email, text, make a call and do a bit of web browsing, then im happy, it doesnt need to speak a thousand languages for me, or let me play mariokart, because its a PHONE

Posted By dave UK : November 28, 2008 7:18 am

As a multi-media artist, iPhone is the perfect cutting edge device for displaying my art & animation portfolio.
Give up the ease of web browsing, iTunes music/videos, and 6,000 apps for “Cut & Past and video camera” ???

I don’t think so.

Posted By Overvision, Los Angeles CA. : November 27, 2008 7:29 pm

ones a Berry, ones an Apple

Posted By V : November 27, 2008 3:00 pm

how is the apple best for music lovers, when it doesnt even have stereo bluetooth? thought apple was all about the music!

Posted By Anonymous : November 26, 2008 3:44 pm

apple is best for music lovers…

Posted By pss4005seh : November 25, 2008 7:39 am

I bought a blackberry storm returned it the next day, good thing i kept my iphone

Posted By Joe Long beach Calif : November 23, 2008 12:18 pm

to: Rob in Palm Springs…as to the limited shipments. its actually a simple idea. build the hype, provide just enought to keep the hype going and keep the demand high. its been a tactic electronics fans have had to deal with forever. PS3, Xbox, Wii, iPhone, Storm. its worked for years. it creates a bragging right for those of us who do end up with the first blackberry storm on our block.

Posted By Josh, Duluth MN : November 23, 2008 1:23 am

just a thought, does the storm need to beat the iphone? or vice versa? surley its more the battle of the service providers isnt it?

Posted By dave UK : November 22, 2008 5:27 pm

The Storm is not going to beat the iPhone any time soon.

Read this crazy detailed indepth blog and you’ll agree too:

http://admiralh.wordpress.com/2008/11/21/why-the-blackberry-storm-is-no-iphone-killer/

Posted By admiralh : November 22, 2008 4:42 pm

Here’s my “Aww, poor baby” story:
I am very upset that Verizon only provided 27 new Blackberry Storm phones to my local store on its release date. My name was placed on a waiting list before the release and that didn’t make a difference. I was told there were 50 people lined-up for this new phone at 7am and only 27 received them. Why? Why would Verizon provide so few when Verizon had a waiting list for them? Doesn’t Verizon think I, and perhaps others, considered switching to ATT to get the iPhone out of frustration and disappointment due to their lack of proper preparation? Doesn’t Verizon think that management arrogance could lead to future problems at Verizon similar to what Ford, GM and Chrysler are experiencing now? I have never bought a GM and don’t expect to. I can’t imagine ever buying a Ford again what I went through with their product and service. I will never buy a Dell computer again for what they put me through. I stopped shopping at Circuit City, Vons and Ralphs grocery stores due to their bad management decisions. Doesn’t Verizon think that people talk about their experiences and decide to go elsewhere? Verizon is at a critical transition point in my mind and Verizon needs to respond. So there you have it, my “Aww, poor baby” story. I will wait for the Storm to come back in stock and give it a try.

Posted By Rob, Palm Springs, CA : November 22, 2008 11:31 am
Posted By kentaro brooklyn new york : November 21, 2008 11:47 pm

oh, just to clarify the figure of 1 every 13 seconds below, that does NOT include the 8500 pre orders (the iphone hand around 1000 if you were wondering) so yes people are voting with their feet, i guess the real result wil be in a few months when sales then are compared, as both will have been on the shelves for a while.

Posted By dave UK : November 21, 2008 5:34 pm

I checked out one of the demos, just could not get a feel for the keyboard/pad. Maybe they should have called it a Leap frog…..like the computer for kids. I think people (like me) that have been using Berry’s for years will not care for the Storm and will regret switching to one after they do. I have two separate Verizon accounts (personal/business) based in different parts of the Country and at one location they will only give a Storm to new accounts- which to me means they are more concerned with some marketing hype and a sales spurt than they are about their customers. I’ll wait another year and take a look at the next version of the Storm that has all the problems worked out

Posted By Jim, Dayton, Ohio : November 21, 2008 5:06 pm

firstly to the comment below, all blackberrys take a while to load, not just the storm, and the storm and iphone have virtually identical keyboards, so not really a great comparison, but i can say that on the day of release in the UK, the offical figures, are one sold every 13 seconds, which i am led to believe is the largest uptake on a new phone, ever!

Posted By dave UK : November 21, 2008 5:04 pm

I just tried the Storm out this morning and did not care for it at all. First off, it froze up when rotating and we had to take the battery out and reboot. Takes forever to boot too. Then, I did not like that the entire screen moved like one giant button and, there’s a slow and sluggish feel to the input as well. The screen looked great but, as far as using it, I did not care for it at all and left it on the counter. For me, I did not have to spend more than ten to 15 minutes with it while they were having issues with their computers; in fact, it was a darn good thing that happened as I had more time to try it. Scrolling was also funky- not smooth like the iPhone nor as precise when clicking to select either. Slow and sluggish along with that keyboard design just did not appeal to me. Just my two cents on this new device.

Posted By cmcken1, Ontario, Ca : November 21, 2008 3:50 pm

rick from canada, i feel your pain, a 3 year contract! ouch! and i think the post below does sum it all up, diffrent phones for different people, some like flip, some like slide, some like touchscreen, if you like it, then buy it, theres so many phones out there, that the storm and iphone is only scratchin the surface (htc anyone? thats the sony X1 and the G1) a phone is not the be all and end all.

Posted By Dave UK : November 20, 2008 5:41 pm

To me, this is nothing more than a bunch of(over aged), school children arguing over who has the best daddy. This is completely insane! I came to find some honest, professional comments on the Storm……. Well, I found SOME. And some very good comparison’s. The rest was nanny, nanny, boo, boo! I recently switched from AT&T, but not of my free will. They said I was OEN, (out of extended network), more than 50% of time. Bad, bad, customer, we will now have to cancel your contract, and can’t get my money back on 1st gen Iphone. But that’s okay, lesson learned. Loved the Iphone while I got to use it! Won’t have another one though, due to some limitations. I now own an LG Dare, which I despise! cheap!! after using the Iphone it wasn’t even running a close race to 5th place. But now comes the Storm……….This from what I have seen,experienced and read has me wishing I would have waited to buy another phone. I see the pro’s and con’s of both. But, if someone is happy with their Chevy and you have a Ford, why bash their Chevy?? Does this make you feel good to spit in one’s face because they don’t agree or have the same product that you do?! I think it’s great that we can all agree to disagree, but the name calling over a product, that you did not design…………..Just getting way to serious. Relax, enjoy, be more humane and professional.This is just material stuff and you can get something else, when, if the time is right. I think we all tend to have buyer’s remorse at some point in our life. I just saying- Apple user’s, if you like your phones, then stay. VZW user’s, if you like Iphone better, than switch! If not, if you like the BB better…………… Need I say more? Then stay and weather the Storm!!! Have a wonderful day to all who reads!

Posted By L. roberts-Lubbock, Tx : November 20, 2008 4:53 pm

Having just signed up to the Bold from Rogers communications in Canada, I seriously considered both the Storm and iPhone.

iPhone would have had me months ago if they had a user replaceable battery. As a business user the last thing I want to have to do is send in my iPhone for service.

Telus in Canada is introducing the Storm, but I couldn’t get much information on its features. What I did get was the fact that it did not have WiFi.

Signing up to a three year contract with these carriers, one would want to know that they have all the communications options covered. In the end, I went with the Bold.

Posted By Rick, Nan, BC, CA : November 20, 2008 4:50 pm

can anyone answer this question, if a phone runs out of battery, is it still a mobile phone? now if the battery runs out on ur iphone, then its not mobile, if the battery runs out on the storm? yep thats right, u just put another in, so when is a mobile not mobile? when its an iphone, virtually the only phone for sale in the UK without a swappable battery, because if you cant turn it on, it really doesnt matter what its capable of

Posted By dave UK : November 20, 2008 3:40 pm

just read the posted review link below, methinks hes not been using it properly, the screen? hard to use because of surepress? its ADJUSTABLE! if anyone knows what that means, then his point has no use. end of.

Posted By dave UK : November 20, 2008 3:23 pm

I just found this review of the Storm: http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/blackberry-storm-review/

ex ped: We had that one this morning.

Posted By cmcken1, Ontario, Ca : November 20, 2008 1:53 pm

All a blackberry storm is, is a touch screen curve.

Posted By Joe Long beach Calif : November 19, 2008 10:15 pm

iPhone user for over a year, and loving it. In fact our whole IT department (I’m not in that group) at work is anti-Apple but now almost all have bought iPhones because they can’t get their precious blackberries to sync with their Exchange network very well. But the iPhone seems to do it pretty seamlessly.

Can’t wait to see the next “iPhone Killer” and what it has to offer.

Posted By deyoungfam : November 19, 2008 9:04 pm

“i’ve had an iphone 3g since launch. it is the buggiest piece of garbage ever. mobile safari is COMPLETELY unreliable and crashes all of the time. 99% of the apps in the app store are complete garbage”

Actually, I have found the Apps from the App store to run the gambit from total crap to excellent. In order to ensure that I am not wasting my money, I take the time to read reviews from people who have used them and if they are generally negative, I skip that App.

As far as Safari being unstable, I have found that if you are truly hving lots of problems, Clear the cache and do a complete phone restart (Power it down by pressing the button on the top of the phone until it asks if you want to power down and swipe to do so.) When it is off, turn it back on and try Safari again. This will clear up any browser issues I have generally. Since it is a true Operating System it can use a reboot once in a while, the more you use it, the sooner a reboot will be required. I generally do so every 2 weeks or so. Actually not a bad uptime.

My blackberry also gets a reboot about once every 2 weeks, but that is an 8820 World edition. If it is not rebooted, it just stops working altogether. Our mobile devices department actually troubleshoots the devices by pulling the battery and then reseating it. It solves 90%+ of all their issues. Smartphones are simply too complex to be on all the time.

Posted By NoahJ, Portland OR : November 19, 2008 7:11 pm

you state that one of the iphones pros is a full qwerty keyboard…ummm Storm has that as well in landscape my friend. So how can it be a pro if both devices have it. Oh and a few things iphone wont have even with updates are MMS and copy and paste.
Posted By Andy Manalapan NJ : November 18, 2008 11:48 pm

I have used both Blackberry phones and the iPhone. Ihave not used the Storm yet and cannot speak to how good/bad it is. However comments like this make me really irritated.

The iPhone is fully software updatable by Apple and the feature set is in no way frozen. It has been through many updates that have added many features and in the last couple they have found frameworks in the OS for Copy and Paste functions. The feature is being asked for and will likely be provided in an upcoming update. The only thing you cannot add to the iPhone is a user replaceable battery or some other HARDWARE change. Otherwise, it is a fully adaptable device that is able to have any software alteration done if Apple chooses to. Adn do not pretend that you know what Apple will or will not do, who thought that they would license technology from Microsoft to put in their phones? (ActiveSync anyone)

Both phones have their place, and neither one is a Fad. Anyone who says they are, have not been paying attention.

Posted By NoahJ, Portland OR : November 19, 2008 7:04 pm

“i’ve had an iphone 3g since launch. it is the buggiest piece of garbage ever. mobile safari is COMPLETELY unreliable and crashes all of the time. 99% of the apps in the app store are complete garbage”

That’s what I have been hearing too and; if that’s supposed to be the so-called “strong point” of that device-forget it. It’s useless. What else does it have going for it really? Eye candy? It sure does good. But, spotty service at best on an inferior 3G network along with a browser that crashes all the time kills it for me. I have heard from many that’s the case with iPhones in general. That doesn’t sound like a solid device to me at all. I have noticed lately that all my calls are garbled on AT&T -even on my old cell. It used to be clear on Cingular and worked up in Arrowhead, Big Bear, Crestline etc. It was perfect for me. Ever since AT&T took it back under it’s umbrella, call quality has gone downhill on my end. Not speaking for anyone else but, all my calls sound bad-even voice mail sounds bad. This is why I switched to VZW years back. I tried AT&T in 2002 and it was bad then. I switched to VZW at that time. When that was up, I went to Cingular and was very happy with the service. Now after that so-called merger; AT&T is sucking wind here once again. Looking forward to VZW and the Storm (minus the extortion of their plans) LOL

Posted By cmcken1, Ontario, Ca : November 19, 2008 2:34 pm

I tried a blackberry curve for 2 weeks for free from verizon and I did not care for the browser. I was split in 2 and had to do alot of scrolling.

Yeah i was comparing my blackberry to my old Macintosh 128K computer and the blackberry is much faster.

Posted By Andrew, Duluth MN : November 19, 2008 1:21 pm

Did i miss something here or when did the Curve come into question. As far as i knew we were talking about the Storms abilities not the curves. unfortunatly in the US we won’t have this chance until 11/21. I was able to play with the Storm for about 15 mins and it is impressive. First impressions, the screen wasn’t as responsive as i would like and the OS ran a little slow but it is an amazing phone. VZW is working very hard to fix the bugs that it might have before the release.

Posted By Josh, Duluth MN : November 19, 2008 12:57 pm

i’ve had an iphone 3g since launch. it is the buggiest piece of garbage ever. mobile safari is COMPLETELY unreliable and crashes all of the time. 99% of the apps in the app store are complete garbage.

i didn’t think i’d care about not having flash for the camera, but wow, talk about having the crappiest phone camera ever on a modern ’smartphone’ if you can even call the iphone that.

looking forward to switching to the storm.

Posted By kameko, toronto, ontario : November 19, 2008 12:57 pm

To cmcken1, Ontario, Ca : November 19, 2008 1:44 am

The call quality on the iphone is very loud and clear. The reception with att’s 3g is not the best, it bounces around to much, but what lead me to buy a iphone 3g was, while I was in hawaii last month I tried a blackberry curve for 2 weeks for free from verizon and I did not care for the browser. I was split in 2 and had to do alot of scrolling. Maybe trying it out for 2 weeks will help you chose. I am going too even though I have an iphone. Who know’s I might like the blackberry better. Good Luck

Posted By Mark Gardena California : November 19, 2008 8:09 am

What I’ve noticed here so far, is what I see again and again, the defenders of the universe. A club that are madly in love with their iphones. One very important key element anyone owning an iphone owner has failed to admit. A smartphone is only as good as its network. Having said that, I can have a flip phone with Verizon, and I’d still get better quality calls than an iphone. There’s no need to brag about what it has. Picture this, you have a watch that does everything imaginable, except give you the proper time!!LOL. The Iphone is a trend, a fashion statement. If your serious about your device get yourself a Storm. Blackberry’s history is without question superior in the smartphone market. Any smart person will tell you that if your serious about your Blackberry, why bother with anything less than an UNLIMITED Data plan? Unless your living in your parents garage and your digging in their purses and wallets,and your stealing wifi from your neighbors and if that’s the case, then I must advise you to run and get the iphone

Posted By Roger, Los Angeles, CA : November 19, 2008 5:17 am

WOW! I dont believe how many people on here will knock a phone because it doesnt have wi-fi… you are talking about 2 of the most enhanced phones on the market, and all you care about is wi-fi? wi-fi is not fast, wi-fi is less secure, and wi-fi works in less places… so as long as you can go to Starbucks with your Iphone, and have extra time to check your emails, and dont care that someone else maybe checking YOUR emails too, then get a wi-fi enabled phone…. if you want a phone that is a functional device… FUNCTIONAL… Then get a Storm… If you want to buy a blackberry without a data pkg… then you might as well get an entry level phone, because thats all you need… STOP BEING STUPID

Posted By Jeremy, Chicago Illinois : November 19, 2008 2:21 am

let me clear this up for some people…GSM, lower frequencies, lower power consuption, more interference, single packet information sending. which all comes down to any interference and you loose your call. CDMA, higher frequencies, higher power consumption (double), multiple packet information sending. which means if part of the signal makes it through you maintain your call/browsing. the iphone will always suffer from a shitty network, until apple desides to wise up and allow a CDMA carrier to offer it with a GSM ability overseas…like the Storm. sorry to rain on the apple fanboy parade. its a great “device” otherwise…which leads me to my next point…just buy a touch ipod, at least that way you aren’t signing a 2yr agreement with a company thats using the same wireless tech as most third world contries. news flash…they use it because its CHEAP.

thanks for reading my rant.

Posted By Josh, Duluth MN : November 19, 2008 2:08 am

I am not going to compare the Berry to the Apple but I do want to say one the. No network will give you 100% coverage. That is what AT&T/Cingular and Verizon expect you to belive from their commercials. All wireless carriers have flaws and .To the guy talking about not dropping calls because your I-Phone has Wi-Fi you better get your facts corrected. Wi-Fi has nothing to do with your carriers signal. It’s only function is to get you on the Internet.

And in case anyone is really interested Verizons PTT Service is relayed via the internet as opposed to Sprint/Nextel which actually uses the cell singals as a radio repeater and they xan also be used for direct short range communications where Verizon can’t. Thats why they used Nextels in New Orleans after Katrina.

Posted By Sprint Cup Fan. Washington DC : November 19, 2008 1:58 am

To Mark in Gardena: Is the iPhone decent as a phone as far as call quality is concerned? How’s the reception on it? I just checked the iPhone out again for the second time but, I am not sure if it’s the device for me. I am a Mac user and have been for a while along with owning a classic iPod but, there’s something about that phone that I am not buying into. It looks great and it feels great as well and, in the store the call sounded very clear as well. I loved the BB layout and I found it easier to get around on vs. the iPhone. I never even owned a BB before and it was really intuitive and well thought out. I just spoke to VZW about their deal and they claim that I can test drive the new BB for 30 days and not have to pay the ETF if I don’t like it. But, man, their plans are like highway robbery. Nickel and dime for this module, that module and no rollover minutes.

Posted By cmcken1, Ontario, Ca : November 19, 2008 1:44 am

What I don’t get is why they think the Storm does not have a full QWERTY keyboard and we all know it does, also the blackberry will have it’s own app store. Which of course, won’t be as limited as the iTunes store is.

Posted By Nick, Tampa Florida : November 19, 2008 12:45 am

I don’t know which phone will be better, but I do know that Verizon and Rim have had the worst marketing campaign that I have ever witness.

As a Verizon customer who has been constantly received email and marketing materials from Verizon to upgrade my current Treo 700W.

I called yesterday to ask about the Storm and could not get an intelligent answer on when the phone would be released. I pointed out that I had just received an email from Verizon stating the phone would be available on November 21, 2008, but the representative that I spoke to could or would not confirm.

I believe that this Blackberry may have some technical problems. We will see. But Verizon and Rim have not raised any excitement over this phone.

They both need to take a lesson from Apple.

PS; I would never buy an Apple phone, anything that does not let me replace the battery is pure junk. I also carry a spare battery for all of my phones.

Posted By J Walker, New York, NY : November 19, 2008 12:24 am

you state that one of the iphones pros is a full qwerty keyboard…ummm Storm has that as well in landscape my friend. So how can it be a pro if both devices have it. Oh and a few things iphone wont have even with updates are MMS and copy and paste.

Posted By Andy Manalapan NJ : November 18, 2008 11:48 pm

Simply call verizon and if you are switching from T-Mobile (like me) to a new contract, you get the special offers. And better yet you don’t have to wait on line at the store on 11/21/2008, when you sign up they guarantee you a BB Storm shipped to a 2 year contract.

Posted By Marco West Paterson, New Jersey : November 18, 2008 11:29 pm

I think even you’d agree that WiFi is a thing of the past. WWAN is the future. There are hardly any free WiFi spots left, and whenever a corporate communications giant finds the last of them, they’ll be sure to charge you for them too (like Tmobile and starbucks).People that buy a PDA for WiFi are just asking to be screwed. If you want something, you have to pay for it, and as far as PDA features go, no one can touch the Blackberry. In fact, there’s no one else on planet Earth that actually has dedicated servers that push your email for you. All other devices use a wireless syncing program of one kind or another. In the industry, iphones are considered a fad — when the hipsters turn old and gray, who’s going to buy Apple?

Posted By Joe, Chicago, Illinois : November 18, 2008 11:18 pm

If you want a bb storm from verizon, you will have to buy a service contract just like iPhone. Both are good phones, just personal preference. BB storm does not have wifi on purpose, because verizon is forcing you to buy their Internet service. I bought the iPhone because of wifi. I have no problems at all with dropped calls.

Posted By Mark Gardena California : November 18, 2008 10:27 pm

why on God’s green Earth would anyone want to buy an Apple product with a service contract attached?

Posted By Joe, Chicago, Illinois : November 18, 2008 8:35 pm

ah, i just wondered if it was out, because i live in the uk, i have on, it came out last week over here, and its amazing, and sold out everywhere!

Posted By Anonymous : November 18, 2008 8:23 pm

Actually the battery life for the BB is longer than the iphone for both standby and calling modes. As you can see…
http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/10/showdown-blackb.html

Posted By Jake, LA, CA : November 18, 2008 5:57 pm

No, it is not out yet. Friday is the offical Verizon launch. We will finally see a public opinion as to which is better

Posted By Alex, Denver, CO : November 18, 2008 5:56 pm

storm comes out fri 21st

Posted By tx : November 18, 2008 4:52 pm

can somebody just clarify something, as i am unsure, is the storm out in america?

Posted By Anonymous : November 18, 2008 3:50 pm

I was going to get the bold as well, but then held off because I figure it wold drop calls just as much. I have been a verizon customer for 2 years and ATT customer for 2 years and ATT is clearly the worst company as far as 3G goes. Im going with the BB no matter what. There is no other choices because once you had an Iphone, you cant go back to a regular non touch screen phone.

Posted By Chicago, AA, IL : November 18, 2008 3:39 pm

Iphone is 200 dollars, loads way faster then a curve because no matter how you twist it your comparing 3g vs a non 3g curve. Your a moron face it. Yes ATT sucks, but VZ has a ton of flaws to. No WI FI is stupid…sorry. Why would i want a freakin clickable screen that feels like a button? Might as well have a button. Iphone multi touch is clearly the best. Its the same things as using my computer. Even when it comes to drop down on a webpage. Your just a moron who doesnt have the facts. BB is a good phone and i will get it because ATT has the worst reception. I dont care about anyhting else.

Posted By Chicago, AA, IL : November 18, 2008 3:35 pm

To the user that says they will get the G1. Good luck, the battery lasts like 2 hours. So im sure you will enjoy doing all your business work on it. The BB is not better then the Iphone. Only thing is better is the service.

Posted By Chicago, AA, IL : November 18, 2008 3:13 pm

I think most of the pro-iPhone fiesty comments are coming from the idiots who switched to an inferior AT&T network, signed a 2-yr agreement, and paid $400 for an iPhone that doesnt even load web pages faster than the BB Curve.

Posted By Ben, Raleigh, NC : November 18, 2008 3:08 pm

In addition to the AT&T comments about dropped calls on 3G; I just returned my BB Bold as it too was dropping ALL calls. What good is it when the device doesn’t function as a phone? AT&T does stink when it comes to 3G and, the iPhone users also suffer. I am still on AT&T with an old 9300 communicator and it works without dropping any calls. There seems to be a real problem with 3G out here in LA.
As far as the BB Bold is concerned; I also had issues with the software in my BB Bold which was 4.6.0.167 where, it would sporadical crash and reboot and I would lose all my email inboxes, the trackball stopped working and the audio signal was all hiss. I had to hard reset by removing the battery at least 5 times a day just to get it back to normal. Sometimes it would not reset correctly despite removing the battery. I loved the device itself but, it did not work for me at all.
I am looking forward to trying the Storm but, I will wait to read some reviews before going with VZW and the Storm. Tempting as it may be, I am worried to just get one and have it not work and then have to pay the ETFee for canceling it.

Posted By cmcken1, Ontario, Ca : November 18, 2008 3:07 pm

i actually own an iphone 3g and just upgraded my other phone to the new bold last week. i use the iphone for personal use, and the BB for work.

anyone who is buying a touchscreen phone for work purposes is a fool to begin with, if you think your going to be able to type long emails on that touch screen you might want to think again. i challange anyone to a typing race with my new bold.

the WiFi is a huge deal, who cares how large the 3g network is with verizon, on a Wifi network it runs 10x faster, and i am hardly anywhere where there isnt a wireless network around to connect to.

i think people are missing the largest shortcoming of the storm; ITUNES. the ipod on the iphone makes it worth the price.

how about the applications store, have you seen the applications available for purchase?? its amazing the things you can now do with it.

anything that the storm has for the most part is just an update away for the iphone, so i wouldnt be worried

Posted By ed reed, baltimore maryland : November 18, 2008 2:26 pm

firstly id like to clear up the comment i made about the zoom on the iphone, it was the only way i was shown when the shop demo`d the pone to me, so if it can be done another way, then i cant argue, but i can say that alot of people here have never seen a bb storm, i work for vodafone, the uk arm of verizon, and i own a storm, so from the storm i speak of experience, as i use it everyday, and the phone, well i havent owned one, so my comments are from our customer feedback, what i must say though, is if i take a photo of my girlfriend at night, i have a flash on the storm, so i can see it, far as i know, would be blank on the iphone, as there is no flash? is this true? but like alot of people, and i have said on here before, different phones for different people, but if sales are anything to go by, our store recieved stock in the morning, was sold out by lunchtime, has been the same all week.

Posted By dave UK : November 18, 2008 2:19 pm

First off all this negative talk about the actualy iphone is pointless. The browser is the best that there is. The battery lasts me all day, meaning I can litterally be on the phone and internet and use the ipod withough worrying of it dying on me. The only fault is that ATT sucks b@lls and the more bars more places is a gimick. That company has the worst service I ever had. The thing with no WI FI on the BB is pure retardation and thats what sucks with verizon. Same as how they block bluetooth from working to send free data. They are pieces of Sh!t as well but have the better network. If this blackberry has some dumb @ss verizon software over it then i will never switch because that stupid. All the VZ phones look the same no matter what brand. For all you sitting talking about the battery, if the BB cant go a full day with heavy heavy use then thats stupid as well. This is not an Iphone killer…its the network that kills ATT’s network…

Posted By Chicago, AA, IL : November 18, 2008 1:54 pm

I have an Iphone 3G and the actual phone is ok. What sucks b@lls is the ATT network. I drop calls every efing day and im sick of it. I cant wait for this blackberry to come out and switch over to verizon. I dont know how people can use the Iphone and be happy with it, when its constantly searching, looking for service, dropping calls, giving errors saying network connection not establishes. ATT is a piece of sh!t and im happy to be swithching out of it.

Posted By Chicago : November 18, 2008 1:46 pm

I think I will go with the BB Storm or Google’s G1 because they have all the features a professional needs.

The iPhone is for a generation that likes to play instead of work (okay that is an over-generalization, but the shoe fits many…)

The copy/paste function is important, and Apple messed up when they didn’t include it. I really don’t want crazy ringtones because they are not as professional, so I will keep my tunes on my iPod and not my phone.

The commercials make it seem like there is a full keyboard on the BB Storm? What did I miss there?

Posted By criticscritic : November 18, 2008 1:25 pm

Some of you guys are just ignorant. The blackberry Strom Has push email for some of you retards saying you need to conduct business and prefer the bold. Those of you saying how important WIFI is are retarded as well. The verizon 3g network doesn’t need WIFI because it is the fastest service everywhere. The good thing about the storm is that it IS still a blackberry, which means reliable email and business use, but is a multimedia powerhouse as well. The Iphone is a cool media device but has no practicle use in the business world. If you are a 10 year old get an iphone. If you want to have a reliable, cool phone with business applicability and multimedia, get a storm. Also - the storm has the click keyboard which feels like a real button (I have tested it) and allows you to type emails and SMS on a full quwerty when the phone is sidways, unlike the Iphone.

Posted By Dan Habib Colts Neck, NJ : November 18, 2008 11:57 am

You know, it’s funny. So many comments about “No Wi Fi” on the BB Storm.
Just use your imagination for a bit. Just a little bit.
I’m a former Palm generation person from the Palm 1 to the Treo700P.
There were rumors that Palm was coming out with wifi for the 600, then the 650, then the 700P. It never happened. Then by the sheer necessity of that function a company came out with a Wi Fi card for that style phone. Granted it wasn’t supported by Palm due to a voltage issue but it did work on some of the models. So I ask you people,
would it be possible for someone to come out with a MicroSD I/O Wi Fi card for the BB Storm.
I mean, I’m not even sure if it’s possible but would if?
Hardware and software that’s it.
I think that would silence just about everyone.
I won’t be the 1st. person in line on the 21st. but believe me, in about 2 weeks, I be BB Stormin it.

Jeffro-Bo-deen
Virginia

Posted By Anonymous : November 18, 2008 10:44 am

if you need to charge your iphone every 2 hours for the amount of business you claim to do…i suggest you check out one of those laptop things, pretty neat. turn your 3g off if youre not using it all the time, change your push settings because youre most likely in your email where it will check when you log in and you battery will last longer, trust me.

Posted By Jshy Boston, MA : November 18, 2008 10:38 am

I think folks on both sides are missing the big point (and I agree with cynik - do your research, preferably try using both phones first, before starting a flame war). It is clear that both devices will sell well, and AAPL and RIMM will collectively keep getting customers in the growing smartphone market.

If you want to really see the distinction between the two devices — past the small UI differences or haptic feedback in BB vs multi-touch in iPhone — then just look at the long-term strategy of both companies. Both are placing emphasis on software rather than hardware - this is what makes smartphones “smart” (and why Nokia had to acquire Symbian to stay competitive). Only RIMM’s strategy is focus on their mobile platform. AAPL’s strategy is to re-use OS X, the operating system they built for computers originally. Thus, they are creating a unified UI experience across the different devices. In 5-10 years you’d have an Apple smartphone, and Apple laptop, an Apple large home touch screen interface similar to Microsoft Surface, and perhaps some device integrated into the car. All these devices would play music, with an iPod essentially built in.

Personally, I think APPL has a competitive advantage for the future with this approach. However, I could be entirely wrong - and I freely admit that RIMM has a good chance of catching up and grabbing back some market share if they execute right. (In my opinion, going exclusive with Verizon and omitting wi-fi are not examples of such execution).

Posted By Roman Rubinstein, Cambridge, MA : November 18, 2008 10:35 am

I think it pretty clear that iPhone users don’t know what the storm does, and visa versa.

Posted By cynik, switzerland : November 18, 2008 9:29 am

I’ve been reading this blog for quite sometime now, and think that it is time to get the facts straight about the Black Berry.

The “BulkBerry” rumor. Yes. It is a little heavier on the ounces, by .8th of an ounce, its thicker by .10th of an inch, and just a hair shorter then then iphone, so its not bulky at all.

The No-WiFi OMG we love our wifi. The Storm is going to be running on the nations largest coverage network, with 3G capabilities nearly everywhere you get coverage. So basically we (verizon customers) will have coverage when and where we need it, we dont need to waste precious battery life on a useless function. were going GREEN!

As for the price. $300 (US) for a 16GB iphone. The Storm, $149 @ Costco. a 32GB MicroSD, $80, most anywhere, bam, there goes the iphone. I don’t ever want to have to worry about memory. Music, I’ll throw it in. If you have itunes, you can sync your “free” music into the storm, just like that, so yes, you can still download, and use itunes.

The Storm does everything the iphone does and more, PUSH email, Lotus, a better more efficient BlackBerry OS, and a screen with tactile feedback, if you dont know what that is, look it up. The iphone screen does not compare. In fact the resolution on the Storm is 12% higher then the iphone, and arent apples supposed to be some amazing graphics machines?

Speaking of editing photos, while running your browser of new profile pictures that you just took with your 3.2 megapixel camera that takes stills, with a flash, auto focus, and video recording,(compared to apples 2 megapixel, still. with no frills) yeah, try multi tasking with an iphone, oh wait, thats right, you cant.

While I’m doing all this at once, while not wasting any of my wifi connection battery life, say my batter has just been on its 360 hour standby ( 300 hour iphone) I can just swap it out real quick out in the middle of no where, because I love camping, and don’t have my solar charger with me, I can do that, sorry iphone, your dead in the water still.

I also have stereo bluetooth capability, so with the 32GB’s of music and video I have that play back on a 12% better screen, come through crystal clear, in STEREO, no wires. No BULKY attachments iphone!

Lets just say that with all the corp.links to my office, and job, and my blackberry is stolen. OH MY! All I have to do is call Verizon, and then can remotely wipe my blackberry clean, so no company information leaks out, impressive, no wonder the COO of Apple JUST got an iphone LAST week. (previously blackberry)

I’m reading an email, and i see this HUGE link, I can simply just copy and paste it, god i love that tactile screen, its amazing.

I don’t need a phone that looks cute and cuddly, and little bubbles here and there, no. I want a phone I can instantly connect to the world with any time any where, where I can send a MMS, without emailing it. I want to type with my thumbs, not peck with fingers, I want to have a better battery life, more memory, a battery I can swap out while traveling, so I dont have to plug in my phone everywhere I go, so I can stay in touch with my office, I want instant access to my email, the web, photos, voicemail, and do it all at the same time.

So please, you can have the first shatter at the drop of a hat screen, the storm has you beat. no matter how you slice the cake.

spenca6@yahoo.com
Comments welcome.

Posted By Spencer. Peraluma, CA : November 18, 2008 5:29 am

@ dave UK: Actually, you can zoom in and out with the iPhone by double tapping the screen. Using your fingers is if it doesn’t quite get the zoom you desired and want either a closer or farther look. I’m not a fanboy or anything, I just want to keep the facts straight.

Posted By Stephen, San Jose, CA : November 18, 2008 2:09 am

Touch screen phones are nice and dandy. I currently own the LG Voyager…really like it, but not in love with it. So, I’m looking to upgrade. BB Storm all the way my friends, because VZ has great coverage and the best customer service. I have been with ATT before but at this moment VZ plans fit my lifestyle. I suggest you look for a plan and a phone that fits your lifestyle. When I shop for cell phones I do look at what is new and cool, but mainly check to see how it feels in my hands, next to my ear, sound quality, features I appreciate and use often….etc. After all a phone is a phone and it’s primitive function is what??…to make a call.

Plus, I believe it is stated on the VZ website that you will get an 8GB mem card with your purchase, and that’s plenty of mem for the average user.

Posted By nance - PHX, az : November 18, 2008 12:25 am

I posted earlier but I have one more thing to say. i work for VZW and I got to use the Storm for a good part of the day and I have to admit that after being a big fan of the iPhone, the storm blows it away! Hands down! The SureClick capability is far better than the iPhone.

Posted By Mike, Bangor Maine : November 17, 2008 9:27 pm

jus a very simple point to make, put it in pro or con, its up to you, on the iphone, to zoom in and out ya got to mess about with your fingers, and with the storm, u click zoom in and zoom out, now im not saying one is better than the other, but does seem logical to click zoom in and zoom out like you do on a computer.

Posted By dave UK : November 17, 2008 8:30 pm

“1. Tactile feedback (Screen that allows you to physically click buttons not just touch them)”

Now I know what it is, i want it. Sounds neat.

As for the guy who says he gets three days from a charge…

He is a liar. LIAR!

Posted By cynik, switzerland : November 17, 2008 7:53 pm

Now is the time we need some thought and comment on the topic of blue tooth ear pieces. This will get you started. See

http://saturdaymorningpost.com/2008/07/12/are-you-talking-to-me/

Posted By Staff Writer : November 17, 2008 7:40 pm

great bit of infomation im not a love of the iphone got many reveiws [code]http://www.cellmod.info/[/code]im glad you wrote this reveiw it very straight to the point …im with htc diamond the phone is great

Posted By cellmod : November 17, 2008 7:11 pm

WHo told you that the Storm doesnt have PUSH email. WRONG it 100% does. And that article above, Lots of the same plus’s in each column for each device?? How about spending a little more time for some solid pro’s and con’s. That Bold is a little expensive for a device thats already beyond its time and only has 1GB memory without a card?. The Storm also has a FULL QWERTY touch screen keyboard. I wish I had this reviewers job. The old redirector took 15minutes to get email. The free BIS is PUSH baby. Upto 10 email accounts,Fast too. I admit the Iphone is a cool idea, but VZW and BB nailed it. It doesnt need BT data connection profiles that are incredibly slow when the network is pretty much everywhere. That goes for WIFI too (why have to find a hot spot when the US with VZW is practically one. Thats why AT&T put a WIFI deal together. They dont have the data coverage to support users everywhere like VZW does. 100% solid the Storm.

Posted By Todd Busch,Dekalb,IL : November 17, 2008 4:33 pm

As an iphone onwer you are a liar. You are lucky to have that things battery last a day under moderate use.

ex ped: No need to call anyone a liar. This is not a Presidential campaign. It’s possible he’s managing his battery use very carefully.

Posted By Nv, Richmond, VA : November 17, 2008 3:02 pm

Sorry, I need the ability to have PUSH email delivered vis BIS or BES. I need to conduct..oh.. what’s that called.. oh yeah, business. Don’t really need to view cool photo slide shows and youtube videos on the go. I’ll take the BB Bold over both the Storm AND the iphone any day for the physical keyboard and push email. I like how my gmail and yahoo are delivered to my phone instantaneously and my business emails are delayed at most by 15 minutes.

Posted By John Engram, Los Angeles, CA : November 17, 2008 2:34 pm

nice blogpost, now i’m torn which phone to buy…

Posted By nidoking : November 17, 2008 2:02 pm

I charge my iphone every three days and have no problem with battery at all.

Posted By Dmitri, NYC, NY : November 17, 2008 1:35 pm

The battery time is just one of the down sides to the iPhone. The amount of useage I do, requires a charge of every 2 hours …at least sometimes every 1 hour. With the BB its every 6 hrs.

I love them both …but just wish the power package (just bought one for the iPhone) was better.

Posted By Rev Joseph Leiato, Virginia Beach, VA : November 17, 2008 1:08 pm

i know the story is about the apple Vs storm, but do u have the G1 phone in america? also called google phone, quite similar, made by HTC? jus thought id throw that into the mix

Posted By Anonymous : November 17, 2008 11:56 am

Thank you Eric from NY with such a great and informative comment.

Posted By Jan Los Angeles, CA : November 17, 2008 11:41 am

This article is terribly misinformed! Do your research!

Here is a real list of what Storm has that the iPhone does not… And vice versa.

What Storm has that the iPhone does not…

1. Tactile feedback (Screen that allows you to physically click buttons not just touch them)

2. Removable battery (lets you buy additional batteries and allows you to quickly swap batteries and instantly charge your phone – I always have a battery charging at home and never have to wait for a charge)

3. Removable memory with pre-installed 8gb card (lets you buy as much memory as you want – you can have different memory cards with different mixes)

4. Video recording
Works as a tethered modem

5. 3 megapixel camera with autofocus and a FLASH! ( iphone has a basic 2-megapixel camera no autofocus and no flash)

6. Copy and paste! (amazingly iphone lacks cut and paste)

7. Multitasking (you can run more than one program at once)

8. Screen is much sharper.. %12 higher resolution…

9. Higher quality audio speaker

10. Stereo Bluetooth capability (freedom from the cables – to get this on the iphone you have to buy a separate bulky device that attaches to the bottom of the phone)

What the iphone has over the storm…
1. Apple’s aesthetics
2. Wi-Fi support
3. Familiarity of the iPod media player (but storm can play in high quality all media files… audio and video… and has cover flow. The STORM also SYNCS WITH APPLE ITUNES….
Both have an app store but iPhone’s is much more extensive and offers a developer kit to programmers.

and about that touch screen…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDE8e6ZQdC8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F6Uxxyu-BI=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DA19DNYu30=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcqRJpMKqAk=related

Posted By Eric, New York City, New York : November 17, 2008 10:59 am

just a little reply to what cynik has put, yes you do get email push wth the iphone, but i believe its yahoo only?? now yahoo email accounts are easily hacked, as opposed to my pop3 account, which storm can do more than just yahoo, but its really all about preferences, i dont see why everyons throwing their toys outta the pram, when the sales figures will im sure speak for themselves.

Posted By dave UK : November 17, 2008 9:00 am

In the end, the Storm wants to be a really awesome phone and the iPhone aspires to be a hand-held computer. With Apple soft/hardware behind the evolution of the iPhone there is the potential that they could change computing as we know it today. Everyone else will be following their lead as is already evident.

Posted By Marc Rullo, East Brunswick, NJ : November 17, 2008 8:56 am

I think the crucial point about the iPhone’s problems is this:

All these problems are DELIBERATE.

That is to say, nearly all of them have been understood, and yet deliberately sustained. None of these “problems” stems from a lack of technology.

The limitations on the iPhone are part of a new Apple policy that puts the market in its place. The Apple executives clearly believe the market is stupid, and will accept products that have been downgraded in order to milk more revenue from them.

Everyone in the developer community knows that this is how Apple has become, in recent years. In times past, everything was free for people who wanted to HELP APPLE by programming for their tiny, tiny market share.

Now that Apple are popular, developers have seen all the free material evaporate to be replaced by not-so-cleverly-disguised plans to skim money from the development community. if you want to access the useful information, now you must PAY. If you want to program the hardware you own, you must PAY.

I was once a die hard fan of the Apple development environment. Now I am disgusted by it, and will not write another line of code for Mac until I see serious changes in their corporate culture.

Some big names at Apple need to go. The attitude that the market is stupid needs to go. The hubris that surrounds the new improved Apple needs to go.

The idea that developers should pay apple for the privilege of helping Apple gain market share in enterprise……

The guy who suggested that, and everyone he hired, and the guy who suggested his promotion, all of them need to go.

Apple is turning into Microsoft with one fundamental difference: they have not achieved market dominance, and they have yet to succeed in the enterprise market.

Posted By cynik, switzerland : November 17, 2008 8:29 am

“and do you get email push with iphone?? didnt think so,”

Um.. yes.

FAIL.

Posted By cynik, switzerland : November 17, 2008 8:17 am

I was going to post here about how pissed off I am about my iPhone.

The lack of a tethering capacity is full scale industrial corruption. Apple have deliberately made their product worse in order to scam more money from their customer base. I think there is only so long you can do that and stay in business. For those who do not know, the iPhone can and did work as a tether to a laptop, but then big brother apple stopped that option, and now forces people not to use it.

But anyway, i turned up here to slate the iphone, and i read this:

“Iphone is a cute toy but without tactile feedback it’s still silly to call it a “business” phone.”

Huh? The burkberry doesn’t have wi fi. I don’t even know what tactile feedback is.

But anyways, leaving aside the insanity, the real point of this post is as follows:

The technology in the phone is not the issue. The issue is the price of bandwidth.

Phones are now being designed to make sure bandwidth providers can charge as much as possible for as little as possible. Both the iPhone and the burkberry are examples.

The iPhone doesn’t tether. Why? AT&T objected that they would not make enough money.

The burkberry does not have internet browsing. Why? Because that way it can do it’s limited thing with very little bandwidth.

In the end, the discussion about the technology is pointless. The real discussion is how come bandwidth has become taxation without representation.

My last two months iPhone bills in Europe have totaled over $1000 (US). Why? Because I use the technology.

Good luck using this technology if you are not being paid very well to do so. It is a joke.

Posted By cynik, switzerland : November 17, 2008 3:35 am

to chris in miami..

The Storm is pre-loaded with an 8gig micro sd chip, along with 1gig internal. You can upgrade up to 32 gigs..pretty nifty

Posted By Alex, Walnut Creek Ca : November 17, 2008 1:28 am

I’ve been scanning the comments and something that seems left out is the “SurePress” technology built in the Storm. You can accidently slide your finger over a letter, but unless you press down you don’t accidently select the wrong letter. Very cool!

Posted By Alex, Walnut Creek Ca : November 17, 2008 1:25 am

I don’t like iPhone that much, I have one, I only used for a couple months and I had to change it. I got the Nokia E71. it is by far the best phone ever. it is not a touch screen, but it has more functionlity than iPhone or any BB out there.

Posted By El, Louisville, KY : November 17, 2008 12:28 am

Does anyone know if the BB Storm is Adobe Flash compatible?

If it is, is it browser based or stand-alone .swf, or both?

Thanks!

Posted By TonyD, Oakland, CA : November 16, 2008 11:33 pm

I just bought the LG Dare a week ago but I am thinking about returning it for the blackberry storm. I was wondering if anyone would care to comment on how those two devices compare. Also, how much of a difference will this new touch screen technology make?

Posted By Scott, Virginia : November 16, 2008 10:47 pm

is the writer of this article for real?? anyone that iv shown a working bb storm to loves it for one main reason - the moving screen thats awesome! how can that not be a MAJOR selling point?? what an idiot to miss something like that! and do you get email push with iphone?? didnt think so, no contest, unless u like checking ur emails all the time to see if you have any? u dont? then the storm is for you. and while removable batteries may be a good point over the iphone, isnt the iphone just about the only one that u cant take the battery out of? iphone, face the future, ur days are numbered.

Posted By dave UK : November 16, 2008 10:01 pm

Iphone is a cute toy but without tactile feedback it’s still silly to call it a “business” phone. The Storm will be a step up in that area, but by how much? In the end it’s tough to beat a REAL keyboard. Hence why the Blackberry Bold is the best phone on the market.

Posted By JuanSevo, Colorado Springs, CO : November 16, 2008 9:34 pm

well reason 3 and 4 and 7 on why he prefers the iPhone in my opinion aren’t very good reasons because for reasons 3&4 iTunes isn’t that great whene theres lime wire and other free sources of music. And for reason 7 ummm correct me if im wrong doesnt pretty much all phones play music.??? Especially if you have a SD card in your phone you can hold hundreds of songs. Also he forgot to mention RIM’s Revolutionary NEW touch screen format which from what i hear from independent reviews its amazing and unlike anything on the market today. Also from what i have been hearing the battery life of the storm is suppose to be longer in talk time and standby time then the IPhone. but in all fairness I would take the #2 away from the storm cus really its not that big of deal to make it better then the IPhone so i would add 2 more reasons to the storm with taking the one away which would give you 9 reasons to buy it. compared 5 reasons taking numbers 3,4,& 7 away from the IPHONE.

Posted By Anonymous : November 16, 2008 7:44 pm

the most important negative point about iphone is i cant exchange any picture or music via bluetooth withmy friend,s N 95
i have the unlimited internet, but i cant use messenger yahoo or msn, how funny
i dont about the storm yet

Posted By reaz, london, uk : November 16, 2008 7:43 pm

Umm honestly, Apples and Oranges so to speak. The functionality and target market are slightly different between a Blackberry and iPhone. iPhone is more intuitive to pleasure, adding the ability to have games and iPod functionality. For Business, i would choose the BB over the iPhone simply because of removable battery, GSM and CDMA “World Edition” enabled and basic word, spreadsheet doc fuctions. Also, removable flash storage allows me to store programs on my phone like the tethering service application. This would allow me to hook the BB up to a computer that is not on the internet in the field, copy the app onto the computer and run it. I could than tether using the BB to troubleshoot an issue online. The BB is a very effective tool in the field as a tech support engineer. The tethering isn’t a T1, but it is very fast.

So it is functionality, if you are an ipod user, not in tech support or business, than go with the iPhone. This type of user will not understand the functions of the BB and will always resort to “wi-fi” and movie comparisons.

Also, I travel, so GSM and CDMA, world edition is a must.

Posted By Avid Tech Guy : November 16, 2008 6:50 pm

Theres an app. called EasyWriter in the App. Store(free) that will let you compose emails in landscape QWERTY.

Posted By hugo s.a. tx. : November 16, 2008 6:16 pm

No Wi Fi on the BB phone???? Are you kidding me? Game over, iPhone wins.

Posted By Ted F. Omaha Nebraska : November 16, 2008 5:49 pm

all the iphone lovers need to realize that there can be something better than what you have i have an iphone and compared to the storm it sucks the storm beats it in everything but 2 feature app store and wifi other than that the storm wins and i dont even own one i still have my crappy iphone with missed calls and nonremoveable battery that doesnt let me edit any files but lets me view them

Posted By ny new york : November 16, 2008 5:33 pm

I think that Al Sacco is a bit delirious on one point as far as why the iPhone is better than the Blackberry Storm.

5. Full QWERY (QWERTY dude) keyboard

I’m pretty sure that anyone with eyes has seen in Verizon’s ads that the Storm comes with a full QWERTY when you flip it over on its side - if anything this should be a minus on the iPhone because when you are composing emails, the landscaped QWERTY is not usable - only the cramped version can be used. Why can you use the landscaped one with SMS, but not email? Who knows…

But the BB Storm DEFINITELY has QWERTY.

Posted By Charlie, Charlotte, NC : November 16, 2008 4:52 pm

What amuses me about Shawn from Best Buy comments’ is that he blasts the guy for not spelling QWERTY right when immediately following, he misspells offending. Come on! I am a recent Verizon Wireless employee but have worked for a GSM wireless carrier for years. If there has been one thing that I have learned in my many years as a cellular representative, it is this. No phone is designed for everyone! Plain and simple. I really enjoyed using the iPhone, it is an amazing phone. I am also very excited for the BB Storm. One can only take the information given for the device to make the best informed decision for themselves and not be persuaded by self deluded individuals trying desperately to make silly points.

Posted By Mike, Bangor Maine : November 16, 2008 4:04 pm

I own an iphone and is a cool phone but depending on your area reception is too bad and you will get a lots of call drops (I tell you i lost businesses and clients because of that) so first do yourself a research about iphone in your area before you get one otherwise like me you will get an IPda instaed an Iphon