15 reasons Macs trump Windows PCs

These articles and most of the reader responses remind me of :

My daddy can beat up your daddy
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My 1974 VW Beetle is better than any Fix-Or-Repair-Daily car.
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My 5 pound sledgehammer can install shingles better than your claw hammer.

I can’t believe that list didn’t bother to mention that Windows Vista is wholly unreliable in comparison to OS X. Sleep mode really is a joke, but that’s just the tip of an iceburg the size of Montana. It crashes, hangs, is incompatible with nearly all the software I’ve encountered and much of the hardware. It is annoying, slow, a memory hog, and even the most basic of basic applications such as Windows explorer and Internet explorer crash on a daily basis.

I’ve been with Windows since Windows I and it really really really sucked back then and steadily got better until it was fairly usable as XP, then Vista showed up. If Norton’s Antivirus actually worked, it would erase Vista from the planet. The Mac ads on TV are spot on, they really do spend more money on advertising than on Q/A.

The 4X cost for something that actually works is probably worth it. I’m forced to work with Vista since I develop software and the onslaught of serious problems are a major drain on time. I’m surprised someone hasn’t hit Microsoft with a class action.

I use a PC at work which has XP Professional installed and have two Mac’s at home: an upgraded G4 with dual 7448 1.8 Ghz processors set up to either run Leopard or my old Classic apps with Tiger (Classic environment) and a 1.8 Ghz Intel Core Duo Mac Mini setup to run XP under Fusion or Parallels. The bottom line is that in terms of work flow I can get more done on either of my Macs in less time with fewer system “hiccups” than with the WIN environment

I have spent much of my professional experience on IBM time sharing or main frames using “macho” command line interfaces for almost 30 years - different commands with IBM and DEC to accomplish the same thing - got around this by re-mapping the commands so that the IBM and DEC were the same in most cases. Give me a user friendly GUI any day. The Mac rules!

If you price out equal capability Macs and PC’s, they price out close, although the Mac are a tad higher, but it is not a blow-out.

The advantage of the Intel based Macs is that you can have the best of both worlds if you use boot camp - or Fusion or Parallels for non-gaming environments.

It isn’t the box that makes a Mac a Mac, but the OS.

By the way there are well under 100 Mac viruses. When I run Win apps under XP there seems to be a plethora of “security updates” on a weekly basis interfering with my work-flow.

I actually spend more time on the PC at work than I do with my Macs at home. I prefer a Mac, given the choice.

This is lunacy.

I have used Mac’s for years, but this is ridiculous.

Mac’s are made from quality parts? Irrelevant.

PC’s are made by manufacturers too numerous to count.

Small reasons? what reasons? More useful apps?

Well, considering I paid $2700.00 for a computer, I should hope so!

PC has and always will blow Mac’s out of the water as far as the Quality-value go.

You cannot argue my $2700.00 MacBook Pro is 400% better than a PC costing $675.00?

I can get a Dell that will last 4x as long for that price.

Also, as far as reliability goes, my Mac has been converted into a Internet/iChat machine… it crashes everytime iTunes or other programs are launched.

I called Apple, they told me I was SOL and they had no answers other than to buy another $3000.00 computer.

Copmuter illiterate? Enough said…

Macs are for copmuter illiterate people, always have been, always will be. With the exception of web developers, which any dope can learn to code for.

Windows will always rule the business world and most of the consumer world. Macs are pretty, OEM PC manufacturers haven’t caught up yet to Apple’s design, but they will someday.

Otherwise Apple just has a really great marketing dept. as someone already mentioned.

The insides of a Mac vs. PC are pretty much identical. Apple does not manufacture their own hdd’s, RAM, video cards, CPUs, etc. Difference is that Apple’s cost x2 to x3 as much as a comparable PC, and their support is God-awful.

There is nothing a Mac can do anymore that a PC can’t. id Software (Doom franchise) got rid of their Macs years ago for Dells.

So face it Apple fanboys, all you really have over any PC is a slicker exterior design and a better marketing campaign.

My God - Don’t you know to never mention Apple and Windows (or Intel and AMD) around fanboys? You just get them all worked up into a frenzy frying what little brain cells they have - and those seem to be the ones related to simply ecomonics. Yes Apples are made for people who don’t want to learn how a computer actually works (or can’t learn)and are totally overpriced - maybe someday Steve Jobs will rememeber that it just a calculator and not a piece of art. And I have owned several Apples and please don’t ever make a statement about quality of the machines. They have a high customer satification rating and hardware rating because they ignore any problems they can get away with. If you actually search on the web you will find all those lost souls who apple have cast out - and just how many of their systems and hardware have major problems apple refuses to acknowledge (at least they were more helpful with resolving my problems than Apple was. And have those idoitc Apple commercial actually brainwashed you into forgetting that Microsoft is a giant anti-competitive monopoly that could swallow Apple and several other companies as a lite snack? Is Apple sponsoring those commercials or is Microsoft? Apples commercials are mud slinging yuppy anti MS commercials, while MS’s are working people pro windows commercials
never mentioning the competition (oh, thats right, a monoploy has no competition)

Yes Microsoft screwed up by trying to make Vista more GUI like OS X - as well as a total resource pig (a pretty pig I will addmit, but still a pig) requiring massive hardware upgrades to be able to use the new features - if you shelled out even more money for the overpriced Ultimate Edition. They also tried to incorporate a psuedo linux root security system with the User account control, which is mostly annoying and still lets virus’ in - but now it’s your fault for allow the application to run. And why did they do this? (Create Vista That is) Maybe to push some customers away to hide the fact they are a monoploy?

So Microsoft sucks for putting out an OS you have to pay through the nose and requires all new hardware - and Apple sucks for pretty much the same reason Apple. They simply have a good PR department and most their users are simple folk who tend to be dazzeled by shiny objects and love giving their money away (to Apple of course), which does help Microsoft by keeping the regulators away.

Now Normal people treat computers exactly like a TV or Stereo - They want the best deal they can get and that sucker is expected to last for at least 10 years (most XP systems can last that long with memory upgrades since every Service Pack cost another 256MB to keep the page file from running constantly). So yes people are pissed at Microsoft and I am sure that people do go look at Apples, see the price, and go buy a PC with XP on it instead.

And the silliest thing is that Debian Linux is totally Free - installs beautifully on any hardware including systems with PPC processors, and can turn an old Pentium III or IV system to a usuable machine again. But you do have to know what you are doing to use and configure a linux system.

Maybe one day Apples will dominate and replace Windows PC’s, and maybe we solve global warning and trickel down economics will work and corporations will look out for the wellfare of their employees, and G.W. Bush was a good President. And Microsoft not a giant domianting monopoly - with Apple as its little anti-trust b#tch keeping the Feds away. And maybe that pretty pig called vista will fly…

maddawg. Your comment is quiet how can I say “thoughtless” I am quite computer literate, I work in a Data Center, I use a PC at work but when I get off work I can’t wait to get home to my trusty Mac. I can get through XP with my eyes closed and could vista to, that is if it would work half the time. Mac is just a more dependable OS and way easier to use and get where your going. I have heard of buisnesses using Mac sucessfully and with more success then with a Windows OS.

Two more quick comments - 1. Please read the full article; 2. To answer the original question about why macs are so recommended these days…

A. They are fantastic machines with a very friendly OS installed, no arguements there

B. Marketing. Seriously, Apple just has fantastic marketing people working for them. I love Windows, use them 90% of my day - I love Macs as well - but I can’t help but admit how much I love their tv ads, very funny stuff. Even the dumb ones are at least funny in an ironic sense. The Vista advertising budget one, I can’t help but laugh about Apple attacking Microsoft Vista’s advertising budgeting - during an Apple advertisement…that they obviously budgeted and paid money for…not Microsoft. Apple spends a fortune on advertising, and thank god - they’re the reason I still watch TV sometimes instead of just downloading my TV shows - Apple advertising keeping me on the straight and legal path.

I’m always amazed when people write articles like this because they never get things quite *right* or really *fair*. I’ve been using both OSs for years and each obviously has pros/cons. Two extremely important things to qualify before going further significantly effect most of the items on the authors list - 1. Microsoft Windows is the predominant market leader (somewhere in the 90-95% range Link; 2. Windows based PCs support vastly more hardware configurations/devices (and Microsoft in no way dictacts the hardware you purchase).

Reason 1: Personally I’ve never had issues with sleep mode, but I’ve supported users with issues on Windows PC. The vast majority of the problems came down to device drivers either being faulty or not updated. Nothing to really fault the Windows OS for, just a by-product of people being able to choose the hardware inside of their PC instead of having it dicated to you.

Reason 2: Yep, Mac’s boot faster. This is one I could care less about, I only reboot on the occasion Windows Update requires it, or a major software install. Windows software installs definitely require more reboots post installation which is annoying, but it almost always comes down to the software manufactures and their coding skills. A good example is that MS Office 2007 doesn’t require a reboot post install - software done right. I still give the Mac props though.

Reason 3: Just stupid - obviously isn’t Windows related because Windows doesn’t make parts. So which arbitrary vendor do you go up against? Apple vs. Dell, Apple vs. Sony, what? Dollar wise Apples products are inferior - for the same dollars spent you can get vastly superior parts from a multitude of Windows PC vendors (whether superior in quality at the same quantity level, or superior in quantity at a similar quality level). Maybe it’s not common knowledge, but neither Apple nor Dell make very many components inside their machines, they buy them from hardware manufactures and assemble them together. What is common knowledge is the price premium charged for Apple products. On the Windows vendor side you have a choice to have the vendor use premium parts or not.

Reason 4: Same as 3 above, nothing to do with Windows, just a vendor by vendor thing. Some are better, some are worse. I personally love the new Dell Latitude E series. To be fair I also love the MacBook designs as well.

Reason 5: Very true - Boot Camp/Parallels is fantastic. Windows PCs had virtual server software ages before Mac recently got it, this is simply an Apple doesn’t play nice with others issue - points to MSFT on this one. If only Apple didn’t make so much profit on their hardware side, they might be inclined to attempt making their software product work on 95% of the computers out there.

Reason 6: Don’t get it. Same utilities on Windows side - and in Vista it’s all in one place - “Computer Management”. I love the note the author puts on “console” - like Event Viewer doesn’t put all the system logs in one place.

Reason 7: Plain ridiculous. I totally agree Mac has a good community of software out there. There is NO denying that Windows has an infinitely larger community of software out there - that’s the number one reason to purchase a PC because it can run more software (maybe #2 reason, cost is a huge factor). Listing software is truly pointless here.

Reason 8: Damn skippy! Love the built in Mac software. On defense on MSFT side is that when they tried incorporating software into the OS they got sued to death - downfall to being the market leader. This would probably naturally be reversed if Apple dominated.

Reason 9: ??? Uh…everything the author listed is located in one place in Windows - in the control panel…which he listed. They’re the same. I’m going to assume it was a brain fart on the authors part here. Even keel.

Reason 10: ??? Don’t get it either. Windows doesn’t include any *junk*. Back to the Apple Vs. Dell Vs. Sony Vs. Billy-Bob issue. Some better than others, but the consumer ultimately has the choice on the Windows side due to a massive number of vendors to choose from. No choice on Apple side.

Reason 11: item one = print screen (along with PS + Alt/Control/Shift) - don’t get it. Rest of items I agree with.

Reason 12: Like the author says, huge point of contention - but oddly the author gets the point of contention wrong. Because Windows is absolutely market dominant, the bad guys out there target it. If roles were reversed we would naturally see the opposite. Macs definitely have security flaws - and like Windows they obviously provide updates to patch them. For some reason it reminds me of a very crappy gym in town towting itself as the best because there are no lines to use it’s equipment…but what if it was a good popular gym?

Reason 13: Uhh…maybe? I won’t criticize anyone for trying new things, I know Steve Jobs wouldn’t either. Multiple editions of the OS - kind of lame, kind of nice to have some choice (authors addition skills to get to 10 seem troubling to me). XPS format - who cares? Why would trying to compete be bad. Adobe tried to sue MSFT in 2006 over them including PDF support in OS - another case of being leader being a detriment.
Of course you get prompted on changing the date - it should be left alone! Too many critical things depend on the date to function - same as in any OS.

Reason 14: Agreed - Linux has a better command line than DOS. Windows has the powershell which is better than Linux (incredible if you haven’t tried it). Obviously command lines aren’t for average users on any OS so I’m assuming you mean to target IT folks in this arena. I have no clue where Photoshop came into this reason - I assume the author knows there is Photoshop for Windows.

Reason 15: Just flat out wrong. Network Neighborhood in Windows has existed since 98…I have no clue how right clicking a folder and choosing share is difficult.

OK - analyzing reasons done. I really think the author needed #4 to be MacBook vs. all other notebooks and could have summed it up with “magnetic power cord”, I would have been yelling “hell ya!”.

I really hate coming off as a Windows fanboy, because truly I am not (I really am a PC fanboy that that includes pretty much all OSs) - I really love Macs. I just hate seeing these wacky lists that don’t make sense.

My number 1 reason to like Macs more is that they repond much much faster to consumer demands. Again though, its just a by-product of having a small market. If Windows developed a new OS every year people would rail on them (why do I have to upgrade all the time!).

Like I started with, most arguments are completely dependant on MSFT being market leader and extremely hands-off on the hardware/software you can choose to use with it. It seems whenever MSFT tries to do something extremely helpful they get sued - sued multiple times by Apple in fact, as well as countless others. You’re just an easy target when you are the leader.

I see OS’s in a linear fashion. On one end of the spectrum is Linux - ultimately customizable, difficult to use for beginners but extremely capable for IT experts, much less commercial stable software and support, not for average user. Then comes Windows - very customizable, overhelming amounts of software both commercial and open source, tons of support and documentation, and runs on an overwhelming amount of hardware (which adds to the customizable part), easy to use for beginners, incredibly capable for experts. Then comes MacOS, extremely easy to use for beginners, but very lacking for IT experts; incredibly uncustomizable - very few hardware choices (and only 1 PC vendor on top of that!) and very few software choices (but the software that does exist tends to be towards the industry top - good but expensive).

If you don’t like having choice (or can’t make decisions) go the Mac route. Seriously, in the Mac store you only have 4 models to choose from (talking iMac here), beyond that choose whether you want wireless keyboard/mouse and you’re done - simple and elegant. You got to admit the irony in the company and positions itself as targeting the creative/individual , you get the least amount of individualism/flexibilty/customization in their products.

Done.

Each PC user who has commented seems to look at things with one eye closed. I am guessing that 90% of pro PC consumers have NEVER used a Mac. I have used a PC. I bought a very expensive PC in 2002, and it was inoperable by 2004. The entire computer was filled with viruses… software never worked properly… papers were erased/lost. Searching on a PC is a complete nightmare. After this experience I used my little bit of money ($700) to buy a used eMac on ebay. That computer still works perfectly to this day. Of course every now and again it needs to be shut down and given a rest… but there are no viruses… no pop ups… I have since given the computer to my parents and bought a 24″ iMac with complete success. I am just baffled that PC users are so loyal. Why are you loyal to a piece of hardware that is unreliable?? I have never met a person who owns a PC and doesn’t spend a portion of their time cursing Bill Gates’ name. It is absolutely mind blowing to me that PC people are so close minded. I challenge you to use a mac for one month… and then go back to a PC. I am 100% positive you will be pro Mac afterwards. When switching to mac… I initially thought there wasn’t a huge difference… until I went back to a PC… I felt as if I’d stepped into the 80s. Try it… you will never be the same.

maddawg… your argument is that Macs are simple to use… and that makes OSX bad!?!? I’m confused… isn’t the purpose of an OS to make things simple and easy?

You also argue that when you worked on macs “years ago”… a set of them had crashed. I’ve got news maddawg… “years ago” in macworld really means “light years ago”… is your next comment going to compare a Dodge Neon w/ a Cadillac Escalade?

It’s amusing to me that PC users are clinging to an OS that has sucked for years. I guess they enjoy the pop up windows, random crashes, viruses, and overall horrible experience (anything to save a dollar).

Finally, before your criticize every mac user… please learn to proof read.
“shiney” is spelled “shiny”
“because they want TOO”… should be “to”
“unfortunately, a MACs”… you meant “unfortunately, Macs”
“suprised” … should be “surprised”
“all their problems”… “all OF their problems”
“these people have to be the dumbest people”… using “people” twice is redundant… unless there’s a risk of these people being the “dumbest horses”
“pople”… should be “people”

… I’m sure all of these errors were simple mistypes. I don’t blame you… I blame your PC.

I could take the comment of maddawg is an insult. I am a Mac user and web/flash/flex/java developer doing very (what we hear) sophisticated stuff using a Mac.

On top of that I know exactly how a computer works (electronics and software), but I don’t want it to bother me while I’m working. That’s the main reason I switched years ago to a Mac.

So the comment of maddawg is not an insult to people like me, it just ays a lot about maddawg. I will leave it at that.

As a web developer, it’s all the tools that come built in on the mac that are so useful and make the Mac the much better choice for me, most of which are outlined here. I honestly can’t even fathom going back to Windows.

I found it very funny that Apple decided to go with Intel chips as opposed to Motorola or IBM chips like they have in the past.

3.Apple uses good quality parts.

That depennds on who made your PC

7.A culture of good quality community software.

Is that why I can find more good quality of community software for windows 9-1 over Mac?

15.File sharing is much easier.

I have been using Windows based PC’s for a long time and never had a problem with file sharing.

Put me in front of any windows based PC and I can navigate it like no ones business. Put me in front of a mac and I get lost.

One last parting shot. The main reason Windows based OS get so much attention is because there are more PC users then there are Mac users. I saw a figure that put it at 94% use Windows 1.8% use Mac OS and 4.2% other OS. That makes it 94 out of 100 users are Windows based and 2 out of 100 use Macs.

Maddawg if you use a PC and you think you are “more sophisticated” than certain people in society then I think before you post a comment you should at least check your spelling. Also, I think more capable people use Macs because on Apple’s brilliant App Store you are getting these great developers that use Macs to program them. I don’t think you get the genius behind everyone at Apple and the genius behind everyone that uses Macs.

I love the emotion of computer users in general for a brand.

MAC is for consumers, they use it for personal use and do not push it…they love it like they love their pets.

PC is for business, people do not like to be at work and they hate their mean old PC they need to do work on.

PC or MAC, work or personal, business or consumer. Age old struggle that you have got to love.

I would like to comment but maddawg from washington said it so well I can’t possibly improving it if i tried

Two reasons not to buy MAC
1> cost on the average twice as much for the same configuration
2> apple only shop (device, software, etc.)

I use a Vista machine at work, and a Mac at home. I think your list is one of the best lists I have read. I’m not sure the blinking lights bit holds any water, but it is funny. I’ll bet a bunch of the flames you get will be from people who have not given a Mac a fair chance. In that case, ignorance is not bliss, but rather a wasted opportunity. And probably a bunch of wasted hours of lost productivity.

i can think of ONE reason that PCs OWN MACs:

1) they are just better…PERIOD!

(when used by people that are not so technically challenged that they require little single-click pictures in order to run the technology instead of actually knowing how the brains/mechanics of it all works)

why do you think they make their gadgets so cute and shiney?

because apple knows that if 99.99% of your consumer base is vitually iTarded, they can only respond to cutesy, shiney objects and would never buy something that actually needs a few brain cells firing to use.

i’ve been in the computer business for 22 years and have used computers for over 30 years and the one thing i can say for sure is this….

of every single person i’ve known over the last 22+ years that uses a mac because they want too, not a single one was any more intelligent than a pencil sharpener.

thoughtless people use thoughtless products and unfortunately, a MACs are made specifically for those them.

now don’t get me wrong, macs have their place in schools, kindergarten especially, where the users brains haven’t developed completely yet but that’s about it….

run a business on macs??? lmfao!

i remember going to a client years back in santa monica to fix a few computers and their network; i wasn’t suprised to find it was oliver stones office and the standard hollywood people, the most brainless of them all, using only macs in that office.

of course their mac network was crashed, as they usually were before they got the ability to join real IP networks, and half of their macs had problems and were not operational.

i remember having to ‘dumb myself down’ just to get over laughing at the lack of intelligence in that office when it came to using their systems.

once i finally quit laughing, i was able to fix all their problems and it was like an office full of children that were just shown a big, red balloon and a box of candy.

it was at that moment i realized, “these people have to be the dumbest people in california!”

long story short….too late, apple continues to cater to the how do i say….’less than capable pople’.

moral of the story….if you can only build products that are for simpletons, then you’ll have most of the simpletons buying your products.

not too bad of a niche since simpletons will pay exorbitantly high prices for products that do less than every other competitive product on the market.

“I can’t recommend apple to clients who have sensitive data on their computers. I have to recommend secured computers to them.”

Uhuh. “Secured” computers. Indeed. Gee people talk a lot of hoo hah about computer security.

Look, if you want security, encrypt your “sensitive data” everytime you shut down your laptop, and don’t network the machine, either locally or on the net.

As it happens Apples can be made as secure as any computer on earth, right out of the box. You turn on File Vault, and turn off airport and bluetooth.

Now the reason folks do not do this is because it is a royal pain in the ass to wait for data encryption and to stay off networks. Very few people really want that sort of security. But it is available.

It is all vanity anyway. How people should love to be interesting enough for their data to be called “sensitive”.

those are opinions not facts

“On Windows, you can google any error you are encountering and find a wealth of info that usually leads to a fix. Try that with all of the hard Mac issues” - a wealth of information on a wealth of errors, because sooo many of the same users experience the same errors. Windows errors are so prevelant and so common that it is actually office cooler talk.

For all of you limited knowledge windows lovers who keep jumping on the guy for using the word “tonnes” -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_ton

It stands for a metric ton. You are showing your ignorance. You think because the vast majority of the world uses these piece of crap operating systems (MS windows), you must be right in your position, and therefore, just like the slam on “tonnes” you don’t bother to verify the facts. You just rely on your lame OS and lame experience and are basically just using the position that it must be the best OS because “everyone is using it”.

regarding #12: apple was hacked in 2 minutes flat, far ahead of windows, etc. see http://dvlabs.tippingpoint.com/blog/2008/03/27/day-two-of-cansecwest-pwn-to-own—we-have-our-first-official-winner-with-picture. I can’t recommend apple to clients who have sensitive data on their computers. I have to recommend secured computers to them.

“A culture of good quality community software - Last time I checked capitalism was a good thing. We should profit from our creations.”
F.
Last i checked, capitalism had its’ hand out, and the only people who are profiting from our creations are the son’s of failed bankers. And auto makers. But anyhoo, sure, a culture of quality community software is clearly a negative thing for the majority of computer users. F.

“Still no need for additional security software. Yea, this systems don’t hold any data that a self-respecting hacker would want.”
F.
Spoken like someone who has never hacked their way into “Hello world!”

If anyone is truly interested in this topic, the reason OS X is far for secure than Windblows is because it is based on the UNIX kernel, and not on DOS.

Now Linux is also based on the UNIX kernal, and as it happens all the sensitive data in the world is kept on huge Unix based systems. NOT windows.

What Bozo and his merry clowns mean when they say there is no good data to hack is that they can’t steal computer games and compromising porn from mac users.

One last shot:”My 8 year old daughter uses a MAC and her 37 year old web designing, day trading father uses a PC.”

So she will get a real job before you.

Wow, where is the credibility in this? I find it funny that there are so many Apple fanboy’s running around that it’s hard not to trip over them. Really? Less blinking lights? Is that a reason to choose a Macintosh over PC? Too funny.

I worked for an all Mac school district that tried to get away without installing Anti-Virus software because “Macs dont get viruses or have security issues”. The end result was that they had so many undetected viruses stored on their systems that they ended up sending out “tonnes” of viruses over email, so many that their Mac email server was finally blacklisted by several of the spam/virus blacklists out there. They ended up losing a lot of productivity because they couldnt send emai to anyone. Additional security software IS certainly needed.

Apple parts are expensive to replace. The experimental nature of Apple designs leads to a higher TCO in terms of parts replacement and service. Hard drives and RAM are no better on Macs than any other system.

Sleep mode in macbooks can cause the hard drives to fail. Look it up in Apple Discussions

On Windows, you can google any error you are encountering and find a wealth of info that usually leads to a fix. Try that with all of the hard Mac issues.

Otherwise, I cant complain with too much of what the article says. Many of the points are somewhat valid for end users.

Once I saw the picture with Bush on the PC and Obama on the Mac, I knew there was nothing to be gained from reading the article.

Tsk tsk Aaron. Looks like someone has a ‘case of the Mondays’.

Seriously, what was hard to get about OS X + Windows being better than Windows alone? Obviously you have more software choices with the former than the latter, and many ppl just plain prefer the look and feel of OS X and Mac apps (the included ones are quite nice btw).

Choice is good. ;)

dan : “Maybe someday when you all grow up and move to the real world. You will understand the need for a real computer. Windows is the best! ”

>> give me a unix core, you’ll talk about real things after that and you too be a grown up !

Aaron, funny how many of YOUR comments could be considered “totally subjective and lacks substance” or a “baseless argument” etc. Instead of dismissing the entire article out of hand, perhaps it would be better to actually consider what it is trying to say.

Oh, and “tonnes” was not misspelled. The article is from an Australian computer magazine. Welcome to the metric system :-)

yeah AK, then open a terminal and see what’s up… got a linux too !
who want a pc ? for most people, linux real hard to get running, got to know what you’re doing, but it’s free. windows, you buy it, run it, then you realize that it’s even harder maintain and got to go through so much to solve stuff.
On that point mac’s honest, well yeah it costs; but still you buy it, you run it, and you damn don’t care about problems after that, ’cause you don’t have none.

It is amazing to me how many of you are attacking this article. Did you even read the full one? Given the explanations to each 15 points you should, if you have a reasonable amount of intelligence, concur that MOST PCs are slightly to vastly inferior to MOST Macs. I love the argument that you should try SSD for your hard drive in a PC to get it to boot faster. Apples to apples people.

“Extremely fast boot times” - True less security to load on boot. The reason there is less security is because OS X is not running the world and is not susceptible to hacking. The data hackers are interested in are being on OS X systems. No self-respecting hacker would waste the time.

Apple uses good quality parts - Totally subjective and lacks substance.

Less blinking lights - ugh… no comment.

OS X + Windows is better than just Windows - Again baseless and lacks substance.

Easier to troubleshoot Macs - Somewhat like a person that speaks Spanish saying it is easier to understand Spanish… pointless comment.

A culture of good quality community software - Last time I checked capitalism was a good thing. We should profit from our creations.

More useful apps out of the box. - It’s just the candy from a vendor that lacks dominance.

Neat and contained system settings - Hello class, today we are going to learn the Windows Control Panel. ugh…Totally baseless argument.

Apple doesn’t load the system up with crap. - I can’t believe I am still giving this article the time of day. Hello!!! That is the PC vendor loading all that crap and not Microsoft/Windows…

Tonnes of small reasons make Mac OS X better. “Tonnes”? Just for the fact that correct spelling was not achieved I am dismissing this question.

Still no need for additional security software. Yea, this systems don’t hold any data that a self-respecting hacker would want.

This article is too lame and a waste of my time…

You must have felt like a little punishment today Phil. :)

@ coeus89

The reason people run windows on a Mac is because 1- They prefer the Mac OS but have some programs (perhaps games) that do not have Mac versions. 2- Many have reported that Windows actually runs faster on Mac hw than on similarly configured PCs.

@ John from Portland
I was reading along, interested in your point of view. Hey, I do not mind if someone disagrees. Until you said:
” But that’s just it, that’s all the apps that will run on OS-X. After you get bored with the puzzle game, then what will you do?”

That is the statement of a total idiot as it has absolutely no connect with reality. (Sorry - I typically do not use this kind of language - but here it is applicable.) Sorry pal - you lost all credibility with that statement.

People commenting should really read the actual article from the magazine before posting. Some comments aren’t even relevant once you read the article (i.e. saying macs and pcs have the same components - the article is talking about keyboards, displays, etc).

#0. John Hodgeman

I switched to a Mac a little over a year ago and I absolutely love it. Then I bought my wife a Macbook Pro, she loves it.

No more messing w/ the registry trying to figure out why the printer won’t work or the mouse is dead. No more virus protection. No spyware. The only problems I’ve had in the last year is w/ windows xp (a necessary evil to run my acct. and cad programs) which I run under fusion. I will never, never, never go back to that lame MS pos. Apple products are well worth the extra money to me. Don’t bash it just because you can’t afford it.

SOFTWARE is plural no need for the S

What is the point of this article?
The vast majority of the world uses PC’s and MAC will always be playing catch-up. Look at all the people who need to run an emulator to actually get work done.

Each has it’s place in this world.
My 8 year old daughter uses a MAC and her 37 year old web designing, day trading father uses a PC.

i’m not a computer geek but i tend to enjoy a regular old pc to run my stock trading programs.
on the other hand-my wife is a school teacher. her class has 14 new macs in it. they sure are pretty to look at! when i visit her for lunch several times a month usually over half of the macs are froze up or will not work or boot up correctly and their IT guy is overloaded going all over the school trying to keep them running.

The more important comparison could be,
Informative, insightful reporting, or good old-fashioned Trolling.

ex ped: We like to mix it up.

This is a funny discussion as you will always run into lovers of both systems. I personally use a MacBook Pro and absolutely love it. I run Windows on my Mac because of a software program I need to use for work is not compatible with a mac (one downside). I switched over from a top-of-the-line Sony Vaio that I learned to HATE. Even when the Vaio was running fast, the Mac is twice as fast running the same applications.

When I work, I have around 6-8 applications running at one time. the Vaio would freeze up and couldn’t really handle working between the programs. The Mac is made for this as I can instantly switch programs on the fly even if one is in still processing information. On Windows, if one application is still processing, good luck doing something else while its working.

My Mac runs the windows OS faster than my Sony ever did and is booting up faster on the Mac. Maybe I bought a bad Sony and a good Mac, but every time I use a PC, no matter what the brand or OS, I sure am glad I use a Mac.

I recently switched to a Mac, and like it, but there is something that is a major hindrance to even a somewhat casual user. There is, at present, no good software available in Mac OS X that lets you manage your finances. Quicken, for example, which I’ve been using for something like 13 years. They have a version on OS X, but it is truly a cruel joke. No version of MS Money is available either (not a big surprise).

This is the chief reason I have Parallels running on my machine.

If you want to maintain the illusion of several different people posting, mix up the spelling of the brand name a bit. MAC would be an acronym, which the brand Macintosh is not.
Why on earth waste time with angry anti-Mac posts? If you don’t care for the platform. surely there are other things to do on a PC.

Hmmmm, most of the comments are from pro-Windows folks, but a little defensive, IMO.

Bottom line, I’m pro-Mac because the user experience is simply better, at least for me. The computer and it’s operation are more transparent–I can spend more time using the tool and less on maintaining it.

I don’t know what others mean by compatibility and software issues. Maybe I’m just lucky and all my Windows-based customers only send me compatible files (Office mainly). And all the software I’ll ever need is available for Mac. I do run Parallels and Windows to test Web sites on Internet Exploder (without a doubt, one of the worst pieces of software to ever be released–but I digress).

Admittedly, not every tool is right for every situation or person. I’m just thankful that Mac is right for mine.

Bought a Mac that claims to run vista. It can’t handle the 64 bit version because it doesn’t install the NTFS system. People need to stop finding things to complain about Microsoft. It Microsoft hadn’t laid the railroad’s this web-site wouldn’t exist. Sometimes you need a common format to avoid making small software companies choose what to program for.

Apple owns more of the Mp3 market than Microsoft ever owned of the operating system market. Google is acting in ways that make me nervous. It’s time to get over Microsoft. I like Macs, but I run a workstation and prefer the base PC. Price wise, Apple quoted me $9,000 for the same system I bought for $6,800, plus they didn’t even offer SLI workstation graphic cards. That’s a big difference. If you want pretty, go for a mac. As for me, money talks, so I don’t care if my tower looks ugly as long as it gets the job done.

As for Vista, I’ve had no problems. As a final note, why are we still beating this dead horse?

I loaded OpenOffice on my daughter’s 10.5.x Mac as opposed to upgrading from office 2003 to office 2007 Mac…and OO for Mac is fantastic…fully compatible with Office existing apps and can also automatically open and make editable Adobe PDFs. Who needs Windows? I use it at work, and it has errors to report to Msft daily. What a joke.

“Extremely fast boot times”. Apparently you aren’t familiar with using a SSD for your primary boot disk. Boot times are pretty much instant at that point.

“Apple uses good quality parts”. The key pieces to the computer (such as the CPU and GPU) now have 0 difference b/w Apple and PCs. CPUs are all made by Intel and the graphics are made by ATI.

“OS X + Windows is better than just Windows”. Sure…at an extra cost. Might as well say a BMW and Mercedes in my garage is better than a BMW in my garage.

“Easier to troubleshoot Macs”. Why do you need troubleshooting tools if Macs are so wonderful? Maybe they have just as many problems that PCs do?

“More useful apps out of the box”. But that’s just it, that’s all the apps that will run on OS-X. After you get bored with the puzzle game, then what will you do?

“Apple doesn’t load the system up with crap” - That’s PC OEMs. If you build it yourself (like a smart user), you wouldn’t put crap on it. Or you can choose to purchase from OEMs that don’t load the system (there are some out there)

“Still no need for additional security software”. When your market share is still well shy of 10%, no one’s going to spend resources to make viruses to attack your systems.

“Apple seems largely to be lameness free”. Really? We’ve run out of reasons, so we’re stuck saying “well…PCs are lame!” You might as well have said something like “your mother!”

Did not mention what windows version and hardware they compared. What is meaning of “good” quality hardware in MAC. We can have best of the breed hardware and load Windows

i still dont get why ppl load windows on a mac. if u need to use windows, buy a pc. u get rid of the middle man so to speak. u dont need to load osx. and EVERYONE writes programs for windows. not everyone writes for macs. im just not comprehending buying 2 operating systems….makes no sense

MAC is not worth for its price. If it claims power of linux, then why not use linux itself. It has almost everything that MAC has and more

> More useful apps out of the box
yes, right, haha!! are u kidding?

> Tonnes of small reasons make Mac OS X better

this is not an argument. If it is really much better you should be able to be more precise here.

> Less blinking lights
who cares? really! let’s be honest here. Does it make the system (the computer better?) haha, this made me laugh

> Apple uses good quality parts
not a solid argument. Are you comparing MAC to PC or MAC to Windows OS? I think is the latests. And, let’s keep this in mind: first, PCs run Linux too so you should be careful what you are comparing. Second, I can get a PC build out of extremely good quality components too. It may be expensive or not (btw, MAC’s prices waay too much)

I honestly have both Mac and PC and I have not booted my Mac in more than 3 months. It does not run the software I need it to run. I gave it a shot, it failed miserably.

Maybe someday when you all grow up and move to the real world. You will understand the need for a real computer. Windows is the best!

That’s a great list of reasons.

I would love to get a Mac, but the only thing stopping me is the compatibility issues. So many softwares that I like to use aren’t compatible with Macs! I know in the future they will be, so I look forward to that!

“OS X + Windows is better than just Windows”

End of discussion.